khans2k5 wrote:I'd rather have Diggs and Thielen for what will likely be slightly more than what Beckham wants for himself. And Treadwell is Diggs insurance in case that just doesn't end up working out. I hope we keep him, but if he has a monster year it's hard to give him a big deal and lose multiple core defensive players. Especially when you have Treadwell right behind him.
Diggs is nice but Beckham/Thielen would be huge down the road. Don't need a 3rd with those two. Not anyone great. Treadwell is still kind of a mystery as he hasn't seen much action. I'd do the trade I proposed.
khans2k5 wrote:I'd rather have Diggs and Thielen for what will likely be slightly more than what Beckham wants for himself. And Treadwell is Diggs insurance in case that just doesn't end up working out. I hope we keep him, but if he has a monster year it's hard to give him a big deal and lose multiple core defensive players. Especially when you have Treadwell right behind him.
Diggs is nice but Beckham/Thielen would be huge down the road. Don't need a 3rd with those two. Not anyone great. Treadwell is still kind of a mystery as he hasn't seen much action. I'd do the trade I proposed.
I'd guess the Giants could get a lot more for him than what you are proposing. The Rams gave up more value to get Sammy Watkins last season.
khans2k5 wrote:I'd rather have Diggs and Thielen for what will likely be slightly more than what Beckham wants for himself. And Treadwell is Diggs insurance in case that just doesn't end up working out. I hope we keep him, but if he has a monster year it's hard to give him a big deal and lose multiple core defensive players. Especially when you have Treadwell right behind him.
Diggs is nice but Beckham/Thielen would be huge down the road. Don't need a 3rd with those two. Not anyone great. Treadwell is still kind of a mystery as he hasn't seen much action. I'd do the trade I proposed.
Is Beckham worth losing 3 of Waynes, Barr, Kendricks and Hunter? He wants serious money. He's gonna ask for minimum 17 million to match Brown. That'd be almost 22 million between Thielen and OBJ. That's a QB on top of paying an actual QB in Cousins. That'd be a hard swap of trading in a great defense for a great offense built on a 7-9 QB, running back coming off an ACL and a line that's gonna go through significant changes again for the 3rd year. That seems like a much bigger risk than staying the course and hoping those offensive changes can be smoothed out in the W-L column with the backbone of a great defense. If you want to win it all this year and then tear a lot of it down it's a good trade. It's not a trade that helps us be built to last though.
khans2k5 wrote:I'd rather have Diggs and Thielen for what will likely be slightly more than what Beckham wants for himself. And Treadwell is Diggs insurance in case that just doesn't end up working out. I hope we keep him, but if he has a monster year it's hard to give him a big deal and lose multiple core defensive players. Especially when you have Treadwell right behind him.
Diggs is nice but Beckham/Thielen would be huge down the road. Don't need a 3rd with those two. Not anyone great. Treadwell is still kind of a mystery as he hasn't seen much action. I'd do the trade I proposed.
Is Beckham worth losing 3 of Waynes, Barr, Kendricks and Hunter? He wants serious money. He's gonna ask for minimum 17 million to match Brown. That'd be almost 22 million between Thielen and OBJ. That's a QB on top of paying an actual QB in Cousins. That'd be a hard swap of trading in a great defense for a great offense built on a 7-9 QB, running back coming off an ACL and a line that's gonna go through significant changes again for the 3rd year. That seems like a much bigger risk than staying the course and hoping those offensive changes can be smoothed out in the W-L column with the backbone of a great defense. If you want to win it all this year and then tear a lot of it down it's a good trade. It's not a trade that helps us be built to last though.
We're going to be losing one or two likely anyways. It might be worth it to go all in now and see what happens.
I wouldn't give up more then I stated though, if someone offers up more I'd let him go.
Cousins has been a pretty good QB, with even better weapons the offense could be elite! (if the OLine somehow steps up too) D:
khans2k5 wrote:Signed Kendall Wright. I guess he's our slot deep threat?
Of course I'll be interested to see what the contract looks like. I can't imagine it's a ton but I would think it's more than the minimum or something. I'm a big fan of Jarius Wright and thought he could have done more if given opportunities. However Kendall Wright has done more in his career than him in theory should represent an upgrade for probably a fairly minimal difference in salary. There are some advanced stats that say he might actually be pretty good. He has missed some game and I don't think he has been super consistent (haven't followed his career that closely except when I did fantasy football) but I do think he is a guy that could be a nice upgrade and considering the QB play he has had much of his career he may be someone that could flourish. It's nice to have someone that is likely capable of Treadwell never progresses.
Next up can we lure Marquette King who was dumped by Gruden? He probably will cost some money but man having a top shelf punter sounds good.
I like the signing if the money is right. Should be a slight upgrade over JW. To me this says they don't have confidence in any of the other young WRs.
I heard on PA that Jaleel Johnson is working out up here this offseason. I am wondering if the team feels good about him and Bradley that they are not looking for depth in FA.
I had to look at his stats because I don't remember him being good the last few seasons. Nice depth for losing Jarius. He did have over 1000 yards in Tennessee one year in 2013. There is some potential there.
bleedspeed177 wrote:I like the signing if the money is right. Should be a slight upgrade over JW. To me this says they don't have confidence in any of the other young WRs.
I heard on PA that Jaleel Johnson is working out up here this offseason. I am wondering if the team feels good about him and Bradley that they are not looking for depth in FA.
I don't know if it means they don't have confidence in the young receivers or not. With Wright and Floyd moving on the only vet receivers on the entire roster were Diggs and Theilen. There were only 4 WRs on the roster before this move Theilen Diggs Treadwell and Coley. Now obviously they are gonna draft another WR and they have some Practice squad types they like but going into the season with just Diggs and Theilen as the only known guys seems...like a bad idea. Coley might not make the roster. We know Treadwell can block. Wright gives them a guy that they know will at worst be adequate if someone goes down and he might end up being valuable in general. It seems like a reasonable move considering the roster and what they are trying to do. Hopefully he can still play and doesn't pretty much dissapper like Michael Floyd last season.