It's time to move on from DLO....

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D-Loser wrote:
WildWolf2813 wrote:
D-Mac wrote:My prediction is that Connelly trades Dlo in a big deal for a PG or a PF this offseason...

- Dlo, 19, and future protected 1st for Jamal Murray
- Dlo for John Collins (sign Tyus to mle with player option in last year)
- Dlo for Lonzo Ball (if lavine leaves)
- Dlo and a future 1st for Tyler Herro
- Dlo for Westbrook, Sekou D and future unprotected 1st
- Dlo, naz, 19 and a 2nd for Wendell carter and Suggs (sign tyus to mle)
- Dlo and naz for Kennard and hartenstein (s&t) (sign tyus to mle)
- dlo,naz and 2nd round pick for portis (s&t) and expiring filler. (Sign tyus to mle)

None of these deals are realistic


Ha if you're talking about money matching, obviously I know that other pieces need to be included. If you're talking about value, then I disagree. The Orlando one might be a reach but others are realistic. I think you're just being arrogantly dismissive so I go away lol. If lip posted this you wouldn't be as quickly dismissive. But hey, cool :)


Glad to see you throwing some ideas out there.

Just a side note if you do have actual interest in Sekou he is a FA as the Lakers waived him last season to sign Wayne Gabriel to a 2-way contract.
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monsterpile wrote:
D-Loser wrote:
WildWolf2813 wrote:
D-Mac wrote:My prediction is that Connelly trades Dlo in a big deal for a PG or a PF this offseason...

- Dlo, 19, and future protected 1st for Jamal Murray
- Dlo for John Collins (sign Tyus to mle with player option in last year)
- Dlo for Lonzo Ball (if lavine leaves)
- Dlo and a future 1st for Tyler Herro
- Dlo for Westbrook, Sekou D and future unprotected 1st
- Dlo, naz, 19 and a 2nd for Wendell carter and Suggs (sign tyus to mle)
- Dlo and naz for Kennard and hartenstein (s&t) (sign tyus to mle)
- dlo,naz and 2nd round pick for portis (s&t) and expiring filler. (Sign tyus to mle)

None of these deals are realistic


Ha if you're talking about money matching, obviously I know that other pieces need to be included. If you're talking about value, then I disagree. The Orlando one might be a reach but others are realistic. I think you're just being arrogantly dismissive so I go away lol. If lip posted this you wouldn't be as quickly dismissive. But hey, cool :)


Glad to see you throwing some ideas out there.

Just a side note if you do have actual interest in Sekou he is a FA as the Lakers waived him last season to sign Wayne Gabriel to a 2-way contract.


Thanks. I went back and added some notes with the edit. Maybe not all realistic, but I explained why I would at least make these calls if I was Connelly. I think they all at least have the potential to be realistic.
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Without getting into the specifics of those suggested trade ideas, it should be mentioned that teams cannot combine outgoing sign-and-trade salaries with other salary in order to match. Teams can combine outgoing player salaries for an incoming sign-and-trade salary, however. That's how that works.
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Camden wrote:Without getting into the specifics of those suggested trade ideas, it should be mentioned that teams cannot combine outgoing sign-and-trade salaries with another in order to match. Teams can combine outgoing player salaries for an incoming sign-and-trade salary, however. That's how that works.


Interesting. Thanks
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Lots of love for Tyus and not just one poster many people want Tyus back. I don't get it, he's decent
D-Mac wrote:My prediction is that Connelly trades Dlo in a big deal for a PG or a PF this offseason...

- Dlo, 19, and future protected 1st for Jamal Murray - if Denver decides to role with Morris at starting pg (might be smart) and not pay 3 max guys after next year (one being super max), Connelly might be the first to know. I'd do this deal. Murray is a huge upgrade to Dlo.
- Dlo for John Collins (sign Tyus to mle with player option in last year) - atlanta has a lot of quality bigs. Gets them off of Collins contract and gives them a year to see if Dlo is a good fit as an added ball handler with and behind trae. Two guys with pretty similar value.
- Dlo for Lonzo Ball (if lavine leaves). Might be a better fit for both teams if lavine leaves. Not sure how this wouldn't be realistic?
- Dlo and a future 1st for Tyler Herro - it seems like herro might be on the outs in Miami. Miami has plenty of toughness, but could use another scorer who can get his own shot. Obviously would require us to add a first. .
- Dlo for Westbrook, Sekou D and future unprotected 1st - no sekou, but an unprotected first would be the price to swap Westbrook for Dlo and I think the lakers would pay it. Not a huge fan of Westbrook but I think Lakers might be desperate this off-season and Dlo would be an outstanding fit there.
- Dlo, naz, 19 and a 2nd for Wendell carter and Suggs (sign tyus to mle) - buying low on the hometown pg and getting a really solid big. Banking on Orlando wanting an experienced former all star pg (lol). Might need to add another protected first.
- Dlo and naz for Kennard and hartenstein (s&t) (sign tyus to mle) - kennard would be a great fit here and the clippers are full at the wings. If I'm the clippers I pass, but who knows. I'm assuming hartenstein could be sign and traded so we could save the mle.
- dlo,naz and 2nd round pick for portis (s&t) and expiring filler. (Sign tyus to mle). - portis is big part of Milwaukee's team but maybe they decide they don't want to pay him. Their early exit showed that they could use another scoring guard (especially with Middleton out). They probably say no, but could be worth a call. I think it would be worth a call. Could be a way to get portis on a 3/50 deal.


With how things ended for DLO you might be correct in thinking he gets dealt. I commend you on taking a stab on trades you think maybe possible, it's always a difficult exercise to nail. Were you saying you would do all these deals if possible?
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WildWolf2813 wrote:
D-Mac wrote:My prediction is that Connelly trades Dlo in a big deal for a PG or a PF this offseason...

- Dlo, 19, and future protected 1st for Jamal Murray
- Dlo for John Collins (sign Tyus to mle with player option in last year)
- Dlo for Lonzo Ball (if lavine leaves)
- Dlo and a future 1st for Tyler Herro
- Dlo for Westbrook, Sekou D and future unprotected 1st
- Dlo, naz, 19 and a 2nd for Wendell carter and Suggs (sign tyus to mle)
- Dlo and naz for Kennard and hartenstein (s&t) (sign tyus to mle)
- dlo,naz and 2nd round pick for portis (s&t) and expiring filler. (Sign tyus to mle)

None of these deals are realistic


Thanks for coming up with these D-Loser. It's fun to consider them. Without considering whether any of these trades is realistic, here are my thoughts on each one from the Wolves perspective:

1. DLO, 19, protected 1st for Murray. I wouldn't do this deal. I've always liked Murray and wanted us to draft him. But he hasn't played in almost two years and is coming off ACL surgery. Yes, ACL surgery seems fairly routine these days and NBA player often come back strong after getting it. But it does add a level of uncertainty that troubles me. DLO and two first round picks seems like to much from the Wolves perspective. Of course, Denver wouldn't do this deal, so my take is sort of beside the point.

2. DLO for John Collins. I'd do this deal from the Wolves perspective. We'd be upgrading substantially at a position of need and I think Tyus would be a positive as our starting PG. However, we're assuming that Tyus is gettable with the MLE. Perhaps he is on a 4-year escalating deal. But I'm not sure. Again, Atlanta wouldn't do this deal. They don't need a $30 million PG and wouldn't give up Collins for DLO under any circumstances in my view.

3. DLO & future 1st for Herro. I wouldn't do this deal. I like Herro, but DLO is a better overall player than Herro. Giving them a future 1st just adds insult to injury in my view. I think Miami would do this deal. But the Wolves shouldn't.

4. DLO for Westbrook, Sekou Dane future unprotected 1st. The Lakers would probably do this deal, but the Wolves shouldn't. I'm probably one of the few on this board who really like Westbrook's game. But I'm not sure he fits well with our current team. Sekou looks like a bust to me, so I just don't see him having any value. I like the idea of the Lakers 2027 unprotected 1st. I'd consider this, but I wouldn't pull the trigger on it.

5. DLO, Naz, 19, 2nd-round pick for Carter & Suggs. Interesting idea. I'd do this deal from the Wolves perspective. Most on this board would say the Magic wouldn't consider this. I actually think Orlando might pull the trigger on this one. Yes, Carter is good an put up good numbers. But the Magic had the second-worst record in the NBA with their current roster, including Carter. They're on the front end rebuilding and Carter actually doesn't make a lot of sense for them. I liked Suggs coming out of college, but I now question whether his abilities translate to the NBA. I now consider him a potential bust. So I don't think Orlando would have heartburn over losing him and actually the Wolves might consider not asking to include him. Getting a talented young big like Naz along with two additional draft picks, including #19 in a deep draft, should appeal to a team like Orlando in early rebuild mode. But how does DLO fit? Not sure. Perhaps his main value to Orlando would be his expiring contract.

6. DLO for Lonzo Ball. I'd do this deal in a heartbeat. Ball would be the perfect fit as the Wolves starting PG. Would Chicago do this deal? Perhaps. They might be concerned about how well and quickly Lonzo will come back next season and the Bulls are clearly in win-now mode. DLO's expiring contract would also give the Bulls salary flexibility after next season. This is my dream deal. But alas, I don't think the Bulls would do it. Perhaps we could include a couple of our 2nd-round picks to entice them.

7. DLO & Naz for Kennard and Hartenstein. I wouldn't do this deal. I'd rather just sign Hartenstein as a free agent. As long as we have Beasley, Kennard wouldn't fit.

8. DLO, Naz, 2nd-round pick for Portis. I wouldn't do this deal. I wanted Rosas to sign Portis two years ago, but instead he re-signed Juancho. Nevertheless, that's way too much to give up for Portis. Note that Portis probably looks particularly good playing on a championship team with the best player in the League, Giannis.
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I'm just saying on the Lonzo ideas. Their is reports out there that lonzo knee is really serious and could miss this year and it could effect the rest of his career.
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kekgeek1 wrote:I'm just saying on the Lonzo ideas. Their is reports out there that lonzo knee is really serious and could miss this year and it could effect the rest of his career.


That's too bad if it's indeed the case. BTW, Lonzo is the exact type of PG I'd love to see next to Ant eventually. A healthy Ball would be damn-near perfect in my opinion.
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Q-was-here wrote:
kekgeek1 wrote:I'm just saying on the Lonzo ideas. Their is reports out there that lonzo knee is really serious and could miss this year and it could effect the rest of his career.


That's too bad if it's indeed the case. BTW, Lonzo is the exact type of PG I'd love to see next to Ant eventually. A healthy Ball would be damn-near perfect in my opinion.


Ya I'm no expert obviously but Lonzo was originally supposed to miss 4-6 weeks and we are coming up on 16 weeks with no basketball activity and doesn't seem like he is close to playing. Sounds like 2nd surgery is coming
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Anyone on board with my trade offer? Think Rosas might do it?

NYN = DLO, (19), Future 2nd
MN = Burks, (11), Future 1st Top 10 protected
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