Thaddeus Young

[GymRat [enjin:6592663]]

Zach Parise went on a roll after his father died. That's the type of response you would like to see.

Zach Parise has played on a roll his entire career. He never gives less than 100% effort no matter what the circumstance. He's a special all around person and athlete. Parise also had the benefit of being close with many players on the team, living near family and being from here, and having been a part of the organization for a couple years. Thad Young was new to the team, the state, and is away from most of his family all the time. The two people and factors in their respective circumstances and losses are inherently different.

Yes, I do agree Parise's response is the one we should hope to see, because it means the person is drawing some sort of strength from such a trying experience, and on the surface is appears to be a more positive response, but to say a different response is tantamount to quitting or leaving your team in the lurch is questionable.

I'm saying this as a general statement and not to anyone specifically. I have no qualms picking apart Thad's game, but to pick at Thad the person, especially in the context of this season, is disingenuous.

[Coolbreeze44]

Zach Parise went on a roll after his father died. That's the type of response you would like to see.

Zach Parise has played on a roll his entire career. He never gives less than 100% effort no matter what the circumstance. He's a special all around person and athlete. Parise also had the benefit of being close with many players on the team, living near family and being from here, and having been a part of the organization for a couple years. Thad Young was new to the team, the state, and is away from most of his family all the time. The two people and factors in their respective circumstances and losses are inherently different.

Yes, I do agree Parise's response is the one we should hope to see, because it means the person is drawing some sort of strength from such a trying experience, and on the surface is appears to be a more positive response, but to say a different response is tantamount to quitting or leaving your team in the lurch is questionable.

I'm saying this as a general statement and not to anyone specifically. I have no qualms picking apart Thad's game, but to pick at Thad the person, especially in the context of this season, is disingenuous.

Careful who you're quoting here. You didn't hear me say he quit or left the team in the lurch. I said I'm not sure that in a sports context he would be the guy I want in the fox hole with me.

I don't blame anyone for supporting the other end of this argument. But being honest your post here comes off as one big apology.

[GymRat [enjin:6592663]]

Zach Parise went on a roll after his father died. That's the type of response you would like to see.

Zach Parise has played on a roll his entire career. He never gives less than 100% effort no matter what the circumstance. He's a special all around person and athlete. Parise also had the benefit of being close with many players on the team, living near family and being from here, and having been a part of the organization for a couple years. Thad Young was new to the team, the state, and is away from most of his family all the time. The two people and factors in their respective circumstances and losses are inherently different.

Yes, I do agree Parise's response is the one we should hope to see, because it means the person is drawing some sort of strength from such a trying experience, and on the surface is appears to be a more positive response, but to say a different response is tantamount to quitting or leaving your team in the lurch is questionable.

I'm saying this as a general statement and not to anyone specifically. I have no qualms picking apart Thad's game, but to pick at Thad the person, especially in the context of this season, is disingenuous.

Careful who you're quoting here. You didn't hear me say he quit or left the team in the lurch. I said I'm not sure that in a sports context he would be the guy I want in the fox hole with me.

I don't blame anyone for supporting the other end of this argument. But being honest your post here comes off as one big apology.

There's a reason I said I wasn't saying this to anyone in particular. I'm merely offering my opinion on the differing circumstances. Using Parise as a comparator isn't really valid in my mind. All I've stated thus far is Thad the player is rife with flaws worth noting and bashing. I've done it a lot myself over the weeks on this board, but I find ripping on him as a person and competitor without acknowledging or giving him any slack whatsoever in relation to his personal struggles is ignoring the human side.

I don't care one way or another if anybody here rips him for his poor play, but if anyone says, even in subtle implications, his Mother dying is not good enough reason for his lack of energy and focus after 'X' days? "Come on, [whoever.]"

[Coolbreeze44]

Zach Parise went on a roll after his father died. That's the type of response you would like to see.

Zach Parise has played on a roll his entire career. He never gives less than 100% effort no matter what the circumstance. He's a special all around person and athlete. Parise also had the benefit of being close with many players on the team, living near family and being from here, and having been a part of the organization for a couple years. Thad Young was new to the team, the state, and is away from most of his family all the time. The two people and factors in their respective circumstances and losses are inherently different.

Yes, I do agree Parise's response is the one we should hope to see, because it means the person is drawing some sort of strength from such a trying experience, and on the surface is appears to be a more positive response, but to say a different response is tantamount to quitting or leaving your team in the lurch is questionable.

I'm saying this as a general statement and not to anyone specifically. I have no qualms picking apart Thad's game, but to pick at Thad the person, especially in the context of this season, is disingenuous.

Careful who you're quoting here. You didn't hear me say he quit or left the team in the lurch. I said I'm not sure that in a sports context he would be the guy I want in the fox hole with me.

I don't blame anyone for supporting the other end of this argument. But being honest your post here comes off as one big apology.

There's a reason I said I wasn't saying this to anyone in particular. I'm merely offering my opinion on the differing circumstances. Using Parise as a comparator isn't really valid in my mind. All I've stated thus far is Thad the player is rife with flaws worth noting and bashing. I've done it a lot myself over the weeks on this board, but I find ripping on him as a person and competitor without acknowledging or giving him any slack whatsoever in relation to his personal struggles is ignoring the human side.

I don't care one way or another if anybody here rips him for his poor play, but if anyone says, even in subtle implications, his Mother dying is not good enough reason for his lack of energy and focus after 'X' days? "Come on, [whoever.]"

Understood, it's just that you used my post to quote.

[GymRat [enjin:6592663]]

Totally get why you responded in that way. Didn't mean for it to come across like I was calling you out specifically. Sorry man!

[khans2k5 [enjin:6608728]]

So it is just a coincidence that his effort level happened to significantly rise at the same time all of his good teammates returned to the lineup? That's why I called him out for mailing it in. Everyone grieves in their own way so I wouldn't normally criticize him, but it's too convenient to me that his play got a lot better when guys started coming back.

[Tactical unit]

His talent was never gone, he just looked flat in all aspects. It appears to me though that he was working on things in practice seeing him go right now and then. I'd agree he looks more motivated than before, but when you feel you can actually win games, well that can do a lot in the added effort department. Those players coming back have certainly opened things up and put him in better spots to succeed as well.

[AbeVigodaLive]

A lot of athletes can / have used the loss of a loved one for inspiration. How many times do you hear a guy say he will dedicate his season to a lost parent? If that's really what caused his poor play, I'm not sure he is the guy I want to be in the fox hole with.

Or, like most people... they could separate the two (death and basketball) and carry on.

Every single person on this forum will lose somebody they love. It's inevitable (unless you go first). Everybody handles it differently. Some people need a lot of time to grieve. Others use their jobs as a distraction from a bad situation. In any event, you're getting paid to do something. Losing your mom or dad or sister, etc. shouldn't interfere long-term with that. If it is... maybe your employer can get you in touch with a mental health professional to help with the coping/healing process.