Camden wrote:It's always interesting to me when we talk about trading for Ben Simmons (or other star talent) and D'Angelo Russell gets brought up. The voices here that usually knock him the hardest are also usually the ones that include him in these hypothetical trade packages to land a bonafide star. It's peculiar because if Russell was as poor of a basketball player or as much of a negative as he's made out to be, then why would the receiving team in any of these theoretical trades have ANY interest in him, especially in exchange for their top talent? Either he has value or he doesn't. Bash him and remain firm that he's not valuable, or change the tune of how he's discussed. The consistency is lacking at times. For those that maintain the belief that Russell is a negative and don't include him in such trade scenarios, then this doesn't apply to you and I applaud your steadiness.
I can comment on this because I don't include Russell in these trade scenarios. I don't believe he's a negative either. But as I've said 50 times, no GM from here on out is going to be stupid enough to take on DLO until his contract runs out. He is a Wolve and will be at least until such time his contract actually becomes a positive due to its' expiring nature.
I'd argue that it's not a matter of other GM's being stupid or not. I don't think any GM from here on out would realistically even have a chance to acquire him. And I could probably make a list of teams that would jump at the opportunity should he become available Gersson Rosas has made it abundantly clear that he values D-Lo as part of the Wolves' core -- so much so that the trusted local reporters noted that Rosas was unwilling to include him in any offers for Ben Simmons. We'll see if that continues to be the case, but it certainly appears that Minnesota isn't even trying to entertain offers for him, if there even are any to entertain.
I'd like to see that list. Tell me which GM's would jump at the chance to obtain him given his current contract.
- Nico Harrison (Dallas Mavericks)
- Leon Rose (New York Knicks)
- David Griffin (New Orleans Pelicans)
- Troy Weaver (Detroit Pistons)
- Jeff Weltman (Orlando Magic)
- Sam Presti (Oklahoma City Thunder)
- Masai Ujiri (Toronto Raptors)
- Daryl Morey (Philadelphia 76ers)
Agree or disagree, every one of these team's decision-makers could use stability at the point guard, or lead guard, position given their situations and would have some avenue of trading for D'Angelo Russell, if he were even available. Russell has two years and $61.4-million total remaining on his deal. That's not even a typical "bad contract" in today's league where they usually span over four and five years worth of commitment.
I certainly don't agree with any of this. But I have to give you credit for the lengths you will go to defend your guy.
Camden wrote:It's always interesting to me when we talk about trading for Ben Simmons (or other star talent) and D'Angelo Russell gets brought up. The voices here that usually knock him the hardest are also usually the ones that include him in these hypothetical trade packages to land a bonafide star. It's peculiar because if Russell was as poor of a basketball player or as much of a negative as he's made out to be, then why would the receiving team in any of these theoretical trades have ANY interest in him, especially in exchange for their top talent? Either he has value or he doesn't. Bash him and remain firm that he's not valuable, or change the tune of how he's discussed. The consistency is lacking at times. For those that maintain the belief that Russell is a negative and don't include him in such trade scenarios, then this doesn't apply to you and I applaud your steadiness.
I can comment on this because I don't include Russell in these trade scenarios. I don't believe he's a negative either. But as I've said 50 times, no GM from here on out is going to be stupid enough to take on DLO until his contract runs out. He is a Wolve and will be at least until such time his contract actually becomes a positive due to its' expiring nature.
I'd argue that it's not a matter of other GM's being stupid or not. I don't think any GM from here on out would realistically even have a chance to acquire him. And I could probably make a list of teams that would jump at the opportunity should he become available Gersson Rosas has made it abundantly clear that he values D-Lo as part of the Wolves' core -- so much so that the trusted local reporters noted that Rosas was unwilling to include him in any offers for Ben Simmons. We'll see if that continues to be the case, but it certainly appears that Minnesota isn't even trying to entertain offers for him, if there even are any to entertain.
I'd like to see that list. Tell me which GM's would jump at the chance to obtain him given his current contract.
- Nico Harrison (Dallas Mavericks)
- Leon Rose (New York Knicks)
- David Griffin (New Orleans Pelicans)
- Troy Weaver (Detroit Pistons)
- Jeff Weltman (Orlando Magic)
- Sam Presti (Oklahoma City Thunder)
- Masai Ujiri (Toronto Raptors)
- Daryl Morey (Philadelphia 76ers)
Agree or disagree, every one of these team's decision-makers could use stability at the point guard, or lead guard, position given their situations and would have some avenue of trading for D'Angelo Russell, if he were even available. Russell has two years and $61.4-million total remaining on his deal. That's not even a typical "bad contract" in today's league where they usually span over four and five years worth of commitment.
I certainly don't agree with any of this. But I have to give you credit for the lengths you will go to defend your guy.
I've learned that it's less about supporting or defending an individual player and more about having an opposing view of the league as a whole. This spans back to your commitment to Andrew Wiggins. I'm fine with it now. This is just the way it is -- differing basketball opinions.
The Timberwolves announced their trade for Patrick Beverley, which means that it is now official. Beverley, as most of us know, cannot be aggregated with another salary for 60-days. That means any Ben Simmons trade involving Beverley will just have to wait.
For what it's worth, Beverley will wear jersey number 22 and seems really excited to be in Minnesota. Kevin Garnett must have been an idol of his at one point.
Camden0916 wrote:The Timberwolves announced their trade for Patrick Beverley, which means that it is now official. Beverley, as most of us know, cannot be aggregated with another salary for 60-days. That means any Ben Simmons trade involving Beverley will just have to wait.
For what it's worth, Beverley will wear jersey number 22 and seems really excited to be in Minnesota. Kevin Garnett must have been an idol of his at one point.
Camden0916 wrote:The Timberwolves announced their trade for Patrick Beverley, which means that it is now official. Beverley, as most of us know, cannot be aggregated with another salary for 60-days. That means any Ben Simmons trade involving Beverley will just have to wait.
For what it's worth, Beverley will wear jersey number 22 and seems really excited to be in Minnesota. Kevin Garnett must have been an idol of his at one point.
"The Patrick Beverley trade is official, says the team.
And it looks like Wiggins isn't getting his number retired. Beverley will wear 22"
Not to mention Wayne Ellington or Corey Brewer, or one of the Wolves' biggest first round flops (and there have been many, I admit) Gerald Glass. It's an outrage...worst run franchise ever!
By the way, Glass averaged 26/8/3 in his two years at Ol' Miss and is in their Sports Hall of Fame. But he totally forgot how to play the game after he left Mississippi.
Camden0916 wrote:The Timberwolves announced their trade for Patrick Beverley, which means that it is now official. Beverley, as most of us know, cannot be aggregated with another salary for 60-days. That means any Ben Simmons trade involving Beverley will just have to wait.
For what it's worth, Beverley will wear jersey number 22 and seems really excited to be in Minnesota. Kevin Garnett must have been an idol of his at one point.
"The Patrick Beverley trade is official, says the team.
And it looks like Wiggins isn't getting his number retired. Beverley will wear 22"
Not to mention Wayne Ellington or Corey Brewer, or one of the Wolves' biggest first round flops (and there have been many, I admit) Gerald Glass. It's an outrage...worst run franchise ever!
By the way, Glass averaged 26/8/3 in his two years at Ol' Miss and is in their Sports Hall of Fame. But he totally forgot how to play the game after he left Mississippi.
If I remember correctly Glass had a couple different posterior injuries so every time I hear/read his name I think of my juvenile saying about him "Gerald Glass fell on his ass".
