I've come back to the sit at #5 and draft the BPA team. Like others had stated, this is likely our last time picking at the very top for a long while, so we should keep our best chance of adding another star. We're in a very good spot at #5.
My current prospect ranking:
1) Simmons
2) Ingram
3) Dunn
4) Bender
5) Hield
6) Murray
7) Brown
8) Poeltl
9) Davis
10) Chriss
11) Valentine
12) Sabonis
13) Ellenson
14) Prince
15) Skal
16) Luwawu
Dunn is currently my favorite choice of who could be available at #5. He is a triple-double threat type PG with great athleticism. Based on that, I have him as the 3rd most likely to be a star. Shooting is a slight weakness, but he's not nearly as bad as everyone seems to say. If he can carry over his 35% 3pt shooting, he will be a very dynamic player. His ability to get into the lane and break down a defense is outstanding. Once in the lane he's capable of finishing above the rim, or getting to the line as evident by his 6 FTA per game. On defense he's got great length and athleticism to work with, and he has shown he is a willing defender. I see him averaging 12/6/6 as a starter somewhere, with the potential to drop 20 pts every so often. He'd be a great backup/insurance policy for Ricky here, with a great chance to take over Ricky's starting spot in 2-3 years. Here's to hoping the Philly-Bos trade doesn't happen, because they will take Dunn at 3.
Official 2016 Draft Thread
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MikeAz [enjin:6636981]
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I found this on SB Nation. Chris Ford seemed impressed with Buddy Hield's workout.
Buddy Hield, SG, Sr., Oklahoma
Hield spent his entire senior season getting the biggest compliment any draft prospect could receive. College basketball analysts dubbed him the "Steph Curry" of NCAA hoops.
The two-time reigning MVP has big shoes to fill, and Hield doesn't seem shy about trying to fill them. His elite shooting with deep, deep range combined with a confidence that borders just on the right side of cocky make for obvious comparisons.
When these guys get rolling, there's little opposing defenses can do to stop them. And the work ethic of both players is legendary.
In his workout in Anaheim, California, on Tuesday, Hield certainly looked the part as a shooter. He rarely missed shots, regardless of where he was on the floor. When the NBA 3-point line became boring (a line that is typically intimidating for college shooters, regardless of their skill), he was comfortable stepping back another five feet and hitting 20-of-25 from "Curry range" in one drill. And Hield did it with all the confidence that he showed at Oklahoma last season. He believes he can be special; great shooters need that level of confidence.
His confidence and quick release make him arguably the best shooter in this draft. In a league desperate for shooters, that only makes him a more attractive lottery pick.
He also knows that the Curry comparison isn't a perfect fit. Curry is an elite ball handler with crazy good court vision. Hield's handle and court vision have been criticized by scouts. And while Curry isn't an all-NBA defender, his effort on that end clearly surpasses Hield's right now.
Of course, when Curry entered the league, virtually every scout worried about similar things: Is he a point guard? Can he defend anyone?
Hield hears the criticism and has been spending most of the past six weeks tightening up his handle and working on his explosiveness in an effort to improve his lateral quickness. He has even received some on-court tutoring from Kobe Bryant.
Both efforts are coming along nicely. Hield looked terrific in a number of ball handling drills, and while I didn't get to see him play defense (he was in a one-on-none workout), he seemed confident he was going to address his defensive deficiencies in the NBA.
"My freshman year I was a good defender," Hield said. "My sophomore, junior and senior year I turned into a scorer. I took a step back the last three years.
"But if you want something you go and get it. I know in the NBA there will be a lot of 2-guards coming at me. I know I have to stop them to stay on the court. Defense comes from your heart inside. ... I have a lot of heart.
"I'm not going to let anyone take advantage of me. That's how it's always been for me growing up. So I'm going to do what I have to do when I get there and I don't think defense will be a problem for me."
http://forums.celticsblog.com/index.php?topic=84755.0
Buddy Hield, SG, Sr., Oklahoma
Hield spent his entire senior season getting the biggest compliment any draft prospect could receive. College basketball analysts dubbed him the "Steph Curry" of NCAA hoops.
The two-time reigning MVP has big shoes to fill, and Hield doesn't seem shy about trying to fill them. His elite shooting with deep, deep range combined with a confidence that borders just on the right side of cocky make for obvious comparisons.
When these guys get rolling, there's little opposing defenses can do to stop them. And the work ethic of both players is legendary.
In his workout in Anaheim, California, on Tuesday, Hield certainly looked the part as a shooter. He rarely missed shots, regardless of where he was on the floor. When the NBA 3-point line became boring (a line that is typically intimidating for college shooters, regardless of their skill), he was comfortable stepping back another five feet and hitting 20-of-25 from "Curry range" in one drill. And Hield did it with all the confidence that he showed at Oklahoma last season. He believes he can be special; great shooters need that level of confidence.
His confidence and quick release make him arguably the best shooter in this draft. In a league desperate for shooters, that only makes him a more attractive lottery pick.
He also knows that the Curry comparison isn't a perfect fit. Curry is an elite ball handler with crazy good court vision. Hield's handle and court vision have been criticized by scouts. And while Curry isn't an all-NBA defender, his effort on that end clearly surpasses Hield's right now.
Of course, when Curry entered the league, virtually every scout worried about similar things: Is he a point guard? Can he defend anyone?
Hield hears the criticism and has been spending most of the past six weeks tightening up his handle and working on his explosiveness in an effort to improve his lateral quickness. He has even received some on-court tutoring from Kobe Bryant.
Both efforts are coming along nicely. Hield looked terrific in a number of ball handling drills, and while I didn't get to see him play defense (he was in a one-on-none workout), he seemed confident he was going to address his defensive deficiencies in the NBA.
"My freshman year I was a good defender," Hield said. "My sophomore, junior and senior year I turned into a scorer. I took a step back the last three years.
"But if you want something you go and get it. I know in the NBA there will be a lot of 2-guards coming at me. I know I have to stop them to stay on the court. Defense comes from your heart inside. ... I have a lot of heart.
"I'm not going to let anyone take advantage of me. That's how it's always been for me growing up. So I'm going to do what I have to do when I get there and I don't think defense will be a problem for me."
http://forums.celticsblog.com/index.php?topic=84755.0
Re: Official 2016 Draft Thread
BizarroJerry wrote:lipoli390 wrote:
Agree with this. I think we should keep this team together, including Bazz, Dieng, and Belly for as long as we can. Draft Buddy (not a Dunn fan but I could live with it), sign medium priced FA and call it an offseason. Don't need to exhaust all our cap space this summer.
Curious to hear why you aren't a Dunn fan? I agree though, draft Buddy, Dunn, Murray, or Bender at #5, sign one FA in the 8-14mil range, the rest cheap signings to fill the end of the bench, then get to work.
Re: Official 2016 Draft Thread
60WinTim wrote:Draft Dunn and be done! Or just "Dunn and done", for short.
(or whoever is left at #5 out of Dunn, Hield and Bender...)
Agreed, i'm hoping the Wolves take that stance as well.
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longstrangetrip [enjin:6600564]
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Re: Official 2016 Draft Thread
MikeAz wrote:I found this on SB Nation. Chris Ford seemed impressed with Buddy Hield's workout.
Buddy Hield, SG, Sr., Oklahoma
Hield spent his entire senior season getting the biggest compliment any draft prospect could receive. College basketball analysts dubbed him the "Steph Curry" of NCAA hoops.
The two-time reigning MVP has big shoes to fill, and Hield doesn't seem shy about trying to fill them. His elite shooting with deep, deep range combined with a confidence that borders just on the right side of cocky make for obvious comparisons.
When these guys get rolling, there's little opposing defenses can do to stop them. And the work ethic of both players is legendary.
In his workout in Anaheim, California, on Tuesday, Hield certainly looked the part as a shooter. He rarely missed shots, regardless of where he was on the floor. When the NBA 3-point line became boring (a line that is typically intimidating for college shooters, regardless of their skill), he was comfortable stepping back another five feet and hitting 20-of-25 from "Curry range" in one drill. And Hield did it with all the confidence that he showed at Oklahoma last season. He believes he can be special; great shooters need that level of confidence.
His confidence and quick release make him arguably the best shooter in this draft. In a league desperate for shooters, that only makes him a more attractive lottery pick.
He also knows that the Curry comparison isn't a perfect fit. Curry is an elite ball handler with crazy good court vision. Hield's handle and court vision have been criticized by scouts. And while Curry isn't an all-NBA defender, his effort on that end clearly surpasses Hield's right now.
Of course, when Curry entered the league, virtually every scout worried about similar things: Is he a point guard? Can he defend anyone?
Hield hears the criticism and has been spending most of the past six weeks tightening up his handle and working on his explosiveness in an effort to improve his lateral quickness. He has even received some on-court tutoring from Kobe Bryant.
Both efforts are coming along nicely. Hield looked terrific in a number of ball handling drills, and while I didn't get to see him play defense (he was in a one-on-none workout), he seemed confident he was going to address his defensive deficiencies in the NBA.
"My freshman year I was a good defender," Hield said. "My sophomore, junior and senior year I turned into a scorer. I took a step back the last three years.
"But if you want something you go and get it. I know in the NBA there will be a lot of 2-guards coming at me. I know I have to stop them to stay on the court. Defense comes from your heart inside. ... I have a lot of heart.
"I'm not going to let anyone take advantage of me. That's how it's always been for me growing up. So I'm going to do what I have to do when I get there and I don't think defense will be a problem for me."
http://forums.celticsblog.com/index.php?topic=84755.0
Very persuasive stuff, Mike...thx for posting. I'm an advocate for trading down in this deep draft, but I'm not going to be unhappy with taking Hield or Bender at 5. I'm having a more difficult time warming to Brown and Dunn though, and still a little cool on Murray too (that could change).
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MikeAz [enjin:6636981]
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Re: Official 2016 Draft Thread
How about #5 to the Nuggets for #7 & #15?
http://www.sportsrageous.com/nba/nba-rumors-nuggets-looking-move-nba-draft/23272/
If so, who do you take at #7 and #15? Perhaps this is why the have been watching Bentil so closely.
http://www.sportsrageous.com/nba/nba-rumors-nuggets-looking-move-nba-draft/23272/
If so, who do you take at #7 and #15? Perhaps this is why the have been watching Bentil so closely.
Re: Official 2016 Draft Thread
MikeAz wrote:How about #5 to the Nuggets for #7 & #15?
http://www.sportsrageous.com/nba/nba-rumors-nuggets-looking-move-nba-draft/23272/
If so, who do you take at #7 and #15? Perhaps this is why the have been watching Bentil so closely.
That trade wouldn't be terrible, but I'd be a bit worried that no team bites on Brown in the top 6 and we end up losing out on one of Bender, Murray, Hield, or Dunn. If BOS or PHX pick Brown then I would do that trade. #15 could still net a good player or be used to trade for a future 1st in 2018? when we lose our pick.
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longstrangetrip [enjin:6600564]
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TheFuture wrote:MikeAz wrote:How about #5 to the Nuggets for #7 & #15?
http://www.sportsrageous.com/nba/nba-rumors-nuggets-looking-move-nba-draft/23272/
If so, who do you take at #7 and #15? Perhaps this is why the have been watching Bentil so closely.
That trade wouldn't be terrible, but I'd be a bit worried that no team bites on Brown in the top 6 and we end up losing out on one of Bender, Murray, Hield, or Dunn. If BOS or PHX pick Brown then I would do that trade. #15 could still net a good player or be used to trade for a future 1st in 2018? when we lose our pick.
My thoughts exactly, future. Brown is the guy I like the least in the top 7. But if he doesn't drop to 7, I like whoever does plus Sabonis or Valentine better than anyone that would be available at 5. DraftExpress right now has Hield at 7. Hield and Sabonis would be a terrific draft.
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Re: Official 2016 Draft Thread
I am not as confident in Kris Dunn. I worry he won't be able to shoot well enough off the dribble (shot 33%) and finish strong at the rim (51% this year vs 46% for his career). Areas that Rubio struggles at also. I think he will be fine in the NBA, but not a good fit behind Rubio.
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Marquese Chriss, PF, Fr., Washington
Hield may be the best shooter in the draft and Dunn may be the best defender. Chriss' claim to fame: He is an absolute freaky athlete for a player his size.
During one of his drills, he almost knocked himself out, barely missing hitting his forehead on the rim during a powerful dunk. There aren't a lot of 6-foot-10 forwards with his combination of explosive leaping ability and agility. He moves as well as any big I've seen since Andre Drummond.
But Chriss isn't just an athlete. He also comes with a sweet stroke that should allow him to be a stretch-4 in the league. And his leaping ability and aggressiveness on defense make him a terrific option as a rim protector.
He needs to get stronger, become a better rebounder and stay out of foul trouble, but he brings tools to the floor that make his ceiling as high as that of anyone in this draft not named Ben Simmons or Brandon Ingram. The fact that he's one of the youngest players in the draft also helps his cause.
While we have generally pegged him in the No. 7-10 range, teams as high as the Suns at No. 4 are considering him. They need a stretch floor, and the other options (Dragan Bender, Henry Ellenson) don't have the athletic upside that Chriss does.
There is a risk factor with Chriss, though. He's far from a finished prospect and scouts have wrung their hands a bit about whether he's mature enough for the NBA. His body language at Washington could have been better. For Chriss, it's not a question they should worry about.
"I think the teams liked me," Chriss said about his interviews at the draft combine. "They were trying to figure out who I am.
"As a teammate off the court, I'm kind of the opposite of how I play. When I'm on the court I'm kind of mean and mad, but I'm never really mad. I feel like I smile a lot. ... I don't really have a lot friends when I play. My friends are my teammates really. On the court I like to be focused and keep my head straight."
http://espn.go.com/nba/insider/story/_/id/15756988/chad-ford-workout-confidential-buddy-hield-kris-dunn-marquese-chriss-more-2016-nba-draft
Hield may be the best shooter in the draft and Dunn may be the best defender. Chriss' claim to fame: He is an absolute freaky athlete for a player his size.
During one of his drills, he almost knocked himself out, barely missing hitting his forehead on the rim during a powerful dunk. There aren't a lot of 6-foot-10 forwards with his combination of explosive leaping ability and agility. He moves as well as any big I've seen since Andre Drummond.
But Chriss isn't just an athlete. He also comes with a sweet stroke that should allow him to be a stretch-4 in the league. And his leaping ability and aggressiveness on defense make him a terrific option as a rim protector.
He needs to get stronger, become a better rebounder and stay out of foul trouble, but he brings tools to the floor that make his ceiling as high as that of anyone in this draft not named Ben Simmons or Brandon Ingram. The fact that he's one of the youngest players in the draft also helps his cause.
While we have generally pegged him in the No. 7-10 range, teams as high as the Suns at No. 4 are considering him. They need a stretch floor, and the other options (Dragan Bender, Henry Ellenson) don't have the athletic upside that Chriss does.
There is a risk factor with Chriss, though. He's far from a finished prospect and scouts have wrung their hands a bit about whether he's mature enough for the NBA. His body language at Washington could have been better. For Chriss, it's not a question they should worry about.
"I think the teams liked me," Chriss said about his interviews at the draft combine. "They were trying to figure out who I am.
"As a teammate off the court, I'm kind of the opposite of how I play. When I'm on the court I'm kind of mean and mad, but I'm never really mad. I feel like I smile a lot. ... I don't really have a lot friends when I play. My friends are my teammates really. On the court I like to be focused and keep my head straight."
http://espn.go.com/nba/insider/story/_/id/15756988/chad-ford-workout-confidential-buddy-hield-kris-dunn-marquese-chriss-more-2016-nba-draft