Wolves offseason thread

[bleedspeed]

Jimmy Bulter to Celtics for Brad Stevens. Who says no?

[Lipoli390]

Updates on the Wolves.

Wolfson reports Aldrich was stretched and it now shows up that way on Basketball insiders when it was not previously. So now his contract for this year only counts $685,341.00 and the same amount for the next 2 subsequent years. This gives the Wolves a bit of breathing room. They can sign 2 vet min guys and even a rookie (to completely fill the roster which I doubt they do) and still have over $700,000 left over. So they could sweeten the pot a little to get a guy that might otherwise just get the vet min. It would also alllow for some non-guaranteed portions of contracts. I don't like stretching guys but I can see the idea of doing it as well.

The Cavs are watching a Treveon Graham workout in Vegas. It's been reported the Wolves are interested and Wolfson reports Thibs has spoke directly with Graham.

In other news the Wolves are interested in Nick Young. This team does need shooting but at what cost? I guess I can't rip them for checking in at least. Hopefully they end up with another player. Nick Young is a gamble.

One player that's intruiging if you want a athletic edge I've tim protector is Eric Moreland who was waived by the Pistons after adding Zaza. His per 36 numbers are plenty solid (doesn't score) and his advanced stats defensively look pretty good. He played a handful of games in the league before this year but basically you are going off a 1 year sample. I still lean towards adding more shooting and ball handling but if we can get a hustle big that's good defensively for the vet min that's something to consider.

With Aldrich stretched, the Wolves have about $3.6 million left under the luxury tax threshold with 12 roster spots taken. The Wolves have two choices that avoid the luxury tax. One choice is to sign two free agents to minimum deals, which would put our roster at 14. Each contract would count slightly over $1.5 million. The Wolves would not be able to sign anyone else since any FA minimum contract except a 2nd round draft pick counts $1.5 million. The other choice would be to spend the biannual exception of $3.6 million, but that would leave us with only the minimum 13 roster spots taken. So I don't think the Wolves will choose the latter option.

[Monster]

Updates on the Wolves.

Wolfson reports Aldrich was stretched and it now shows up that way on Basketball insiders when it was not previously. So now his contract for this year only counts $685,341.00 and the same amount for the next 2 subsequent years. This gives the Wolves a bit of breathing room. They can sign 2 vet min guys and even a rookie (to completely fill the roster which I doubt they do) and still have over $700,000 left over. So they could sweeten the pot a little to get a guy that might otherwise just get the vet min. It would also alllow for some non-guaranteed portions of contracts. I don't like stretching guys but I can see the idea of doing it as well.

The Cavs are watching a Treveon Graham workout in Vegas. It's been reported the Wolves are interested and Wolfson reports Thibs has spoke directly with Graham.

In other news the Wolves are interested in Nick Young. This team does need shooting but at what cost? I guess I can't rip them for checking in at least. Hopefully they end up with another player. Nick Young is a gamble.

One player that's intruiging if you want a athletic edge I've tim protector is Eric Moreland who was waived by the Pistons after adding Zaza. His per 36 numbers are plenty solid (doesn't score) and his advanced stats defensively look pretty good. He played a handful of games in the league before this year but basically you are going off a 1 year sample. I still lean towards adding more shooting and ball handling but if we can get a hustle big that's good defensively for the vet min that's something to consider.

With Aldrich stretched, the Wolves have about $3.6 million left under the luxury tax threshold with 12 roster spots taken. The Wolves have two choices that avoid the luxury tax. One choice is to sign two free agents to minimum deals, which would put our roster at 14. Each contract would count slightly over $1.5 million. The Wolves would not be able to sign anyone else since any FA minimum contract except a 2nd round draft pick counts $1.5 million. The other choice would be to spend the biannual exception of $3.6 million, but that would leave us with only the minimum 13 roster spots taken. So I don't think the Wolves will choose the latter option.

I agree with you Lip i don't think they would use the whole BAE but they could use part of it. They do still have some of the mid-level they could use which is probably a little over 2.8 million. That could be enough to use on a guy to sway him our way. Dante took a bit more money to go to NO last year. I don't think that was the only factor but if you can make another 400k why not? If we wanted a guy like Treveon Graham who's vet min is more like 1.5 million and he hasn't made much yet and extra 500k might be worthwhile and it would keep the BAE available for later. Remember you can use these exceptions during the season and with contracts prorated we might be able to offer a bit more than someone else with one of these exceptions and still stay under the tax. This is really getting into the weeds but eventually this is the type of stuff that we are going to be talking about with these vet min type guys (some probably worth a bit more than that if there was more money) as that's pretty much what we can afford. I think there will be some decent options.

[60WinTim]

Updates on the Wolves.

Wolfson reports Aldrich was stretched and it now shows up that way on Basketball insiders when it was not previously. So now his contract for this year only counts $685,341.00 and the same amount for the next 2 subsequent years. This gives the Wolves a bit of breathing room. They can sign 2 vet min guys and even a rookie (to completely fill the roster which I doubt they do) and still have over $700,000 left over. So they could sweeten the pot a little to get a guy that might otherwise just get the vet min. It would also alllow for some non-guaranteed portions of contracts. I don't like stretching guys but I can see the idea of doing it as well.

The Cavs are watching a Treveon Graham workout in Vegas. It's been reported the Wolves are interested and Wolfson reports Thibs has spoke directly with Graham.

In other news the Wolves are interested in Nick Young. This team does need shooting but at what cost? I guess I can't rip them for checking in at least. Hopefully they end up with another player. Nick Young is a gamble.

One player that's intruiging if you want a athletic edge I've tim protector is Eric Moreland who was waived by the Pistons after adding Zaza. His per 36 numbers are plenty solid (doesn't score) and his advanced stats defensively look pretty good. He played a handful of games in the league before this year but basically you are going off a 1 year sample. I still lean towards adding more shooting and ball handling but if we can get a hustle big that's good defensively for the vet min that's something to consider.

With Aldrich stretched, the Wolves have about $3.6 million left under the luxury tax threshold with 12 roster spots taken. The Wolves have two choices that avoid the luxury tax. One choice is to sign two free agents to minimum deals, which would put our roster at 14. Each contract would count slightly over $1.5 million. The Wolves would not be able to sign anyone else since any FA minimum contract except a 2nd round draft pick counts $1.5 million. The other choice would be to spend the biannual exception of $3.6 million, but that would leave us with only the minimum 13 roster spots taken. So I don't think the Wolves will choose the latter option.

Actually, Lip, if you look at monster's numbers, the Wolves are currently sitting at 4.6 mil under the luxury tax. Just enough room to fill out the roster with 3 more vet minimum contracts. I assume this is no coincidence...

You must still have the Bazz dead cap money in your numbers, which is wrong.

http://www.basketballinsiders.com/minnesota-timberwolves-team-salary/

[Monster]

I think someone posted this elsewhere but here is a report that Bazz gave up his player option to leave.

http://m.startribune.com/shabazz-muhammad-reaches-contract-buyout-with-timberwolves/475613603/

"By agreeing to the buyout, Muhammad forgoes a veteran's minimum player option for next season."

[crazy-canuck [enjin:18955461]]

Okafor the vet minimum?

He really didn't have a place in the pace and space era. But, he could have a role in thibs' archaic offense. Instead of relying on the rose to create offense, we could just dump it into okafor to iso in the post.

[bleedspeed]

Okafor the vet minimum?

He really didn't have a place in the pace and space era. But, he could have a role in thibs' archaic offense. Instead of relying on the rose to create offense, we could just dump it into okafor to iso in the post.

YES

[Camden [enjin:6601484]]

Okafor the vet minimum?

He really didn't have a place in the pace and space era. But, he could have a role in thibs' archaic offense. Instead of relying on the rose to create offense, we could just dump it into okafor to iso in the post.

It's wild to me that he's 22-years old and might not play another four years in the league -- not because of injuries, or lack of talent, but because his game is completely outdated for today's game. It's sad to see and it's another reason why I hate how the game has evolved and is focused around the three-point shot.

[Q12543 [enjin:6621299]]

Okafor the vet minimum?

He really didn't have a place in the pace and space era. But, he could have a role in thibs' archaic offense. Instead of relying on the rose to create offense, we could just dump it into okafor to iso in the post.

It's wild to me that he's 22-years old and might not play another four years in the league -- not because of injuries, or lack of talent, but because his game is completely outdated for today's game. It's sad to see and it's another reason why I hate how the game has evolved and is focused around the three-point shot.

Yeah, I used to love watching him operate in the low post during his brief stint at Duke. Hard to believe he won a title (with Tyus of course!) and then proceeded to be in the mix for the #1 pick.

While his post game may be old school, he's pretty damn effective down there and I think there is still a place for it in the league. The bigger issue is his defense. He's a disaster.

[crazy-canuck [enjin:18955461]]

Okafor the vet minimum?

He really didn't have a place in the pace and space era. But, he could have a role in thibs' archaic offense. Instead of relying on the rose to create offense, we could just dump it into okafor to iso in the post.

It's wild to me that he's 22-years old and might not play another four years in the league -- not because of injuries, or lack of talent, but because his game is completely outdated for today's game. It's sad to see and it's another reason why I hate how the game has evolved and is focused around the three-point shot.

Yeah, I used to love watching him operate in the low post during his brief stint at Duke. Hard to believe he won a title (with Tyus of course!) and then proceeded to be in the mix for the #1 pick.

While his post game may be old school, he's pretty damn effective down there and I think there is still a place for it in the league. The bigger issue is his defense. He's a disaster.

Luckily , we run an archaic system that will get him post looks in the offense.

Defensively, we have Dieng and KAt at C, so he should fit right in.