Windhorst: Towns and Butler pushing for Irving trade

[Mr. Brightside [enjin:16464947]]

https://articles.cleveland.com/cavs/index.ssf/2017/07/derrick_rose_cavaliers_agree_t.amp

Interesting first two paragraphs.

Thibs won't trade Wiggins. Period.

[kekgeek]

This tweet could explain the kyrie thing. This is from his teammate Richard Jefferson

Check out @Carter_Shade's Tweet: https://twitter.com/Carter_Shade/status/889528031693463554?s=01

[Q12543 [enjin:6621299]]

This tweet could explain the kyrie thing. This is from his teammate Richard Jefferson

Check out @Carter_Shade's Tweet: https://twitter.com/Carter_Shade/status/889528031693463554?s=01

Puts Irving's situation in a bit more of a sympathetic light.....

[BloopOracle]

Stephen A Smith who besides being a crazy man has legit connections to Kyrie. said we are his top choice on Mike and Mike but that he would likely end up in New York

[Monster]

Is Kyrie a better player than Butler?

[Coolbreeze44]

Is Kyrie a better player than Butler?

No

[Hicks123 [enjin:6700838]]

Is Kyrie a better player than Butler?

I wouldn't say better.....just different. IMO, Kyrie is a top 3 offensive player in the NBA. He is absolutely lethal on offense....but his lackluster defensive abilities are the reason I don't say he is better than Butler. For OUR team, I take Butler. Starting a new team....probably lean towards Kyrie.

[longstrangetrip [enjin:6600564]]

Stephen A Smith who besides being a crazy man has legit connections to Kyrie. said we are his top choice on Mike and Mike but that he would likely end up in New York

I'm not a fan of Smith, but I love both of these comments...

[Monster]

Is Kyrie a better player than Butler?

I wouldn't say better.....just different. IMO, Kyrie is a top 3 offensive player in the NBA. He is absolutely lethal on offense....but his lackluster defensive abilities are the reason I don't say he is better than Butler. For OUR team, I take Butler. Starting a new team....probably lean towards Kyrie.

So based on this and what Cool said if Wiggins was off the table for Butler I don't see him being available for Kyrie. Jon K said on Dan B show yesterday he thinks Thibs views/values Wiggins higher than many people around the league and therefore wonders if he would be made available. He also said he thinks Butler and Thibs very likely have had conversations about Kyrie and why Butler recruiting Kyrie has some endorsement from Thibs. Whether that means Thibs is willing to give up Wiggins to get Kyrie...idk. Kyrie could flat out demand to go to the Wolves I suppose....lol yeah I know that's CRAZY.

Mitch Lawrence said the Wolves knee Kyrie wasn't happy around the draft and were looking to make a move for him then. Interesting but obviously they went for Butler.

[SameOldNudityDrew]

This tweet could explain the kyrie thing. This is from his teammate Richard Jefferson

Check out @Carter_Shade's Tweet: https://twitter.com/Carter_Shade/status/889528031693463554?s=01

Puts Irving's situation in a bit more of a sympathetic light.....

I listened to the Road Trippin' podcast several times this year, and I'm pretty sure Jefferson is just being nice to Kyrie by giving him the most sympathetic take, that's the way he operated in general on that podcast.

This might be the story Kyrie is telling others, or even himself, but it doesn't make sense.

The uncertainty argument doesn't make a lot of sense because Kyrie has nothing to worry about if James leaves next summer. He knows for a fact LeBron is playing this year and that if he stays, they've got a great chance to be in the finals for the 4th straight year. If James leaves next summer, Kyrie knows for certain he just needs to tell Cleveland he won't extend, and they'll be forced to trade him next summer because he has only one more guaranteed year. He knows for sure he's not going to get stuck in Cleveland with a weak team.

In fact, Kyrie asking for a trade now actually increases the uncertainty. Cleveland might trade him now, but they might have to wait to get the best deal because the draft and free agency is over, so he's actually made the situation much more uncertain than it already was. Now, maybe he's as big an idiot as his flat-earth comments suggest, and he just didn't realize this, but I don't think so. So I'm pretty sure the uncertainty thing is just the nicest way of blaming somebody else, but that it's not the real reason. I think he must just not like LeBron personally (which could be somewhat understandable, who knows?) and/or he really does want to be the man on another team (which is egotistical and dumb, in my opinion).