Gotta change up the 4th quarter rotations, enough is enough

[Mstermisty [enjin:6864008]]

Barea played half the 4th quarter tonight, again. At this point I've come to the conclusion JJ is a slightly better version of Smilin' Jonny Flynn.

Rubio is by no means going to be our 4th quarter savior. But at least with him in there it feels like we will compete.

It's time for Adelman to pull his head out of his ass and start rotating players so JJ doesn't play more than a couple minutes in the 4th. Seems pretty simple to me: give Rubio a minute or two of rest before the end of the 3rd, then bring him back a couple minutes into the 4th. Or even better: take Rubio out with a few minutes left in the 3rd and give him that break and the quarter break, then give him the whole 4th.

That noise we're all hearing is the season swirling down the drain. It's probably too late already. But for the love of Pooh Richardson on a popsicle stick, can we please go down with Rubio playing in the 4th quarter? If anything it gives him a chance to get better.

(and another rotation question: what happened to Shved? guy was finally showing signs of life and yet he has been regulated to the bench in favor of the anti-point guard Barea, and Bud, who clearly is not ready to contribute.)

[alexftbl8181 [enjin:6648741]]

Barea played half the 4th quarter tonight, again. At this point I've come to the conclusion JJ is a slightly better version of Smilin' Jonny Flynn.

Rubio is by no means going to be our 4th quarter savior. But at least with him in there it feels like we will compete.

It's time for Adelman to pull his head out of his ass and start rotating players so JJ doesn't play more than a couple minutes in the 4th. Seems pretty simple to me: give Rubio a minute or two of rest before the end of the 3rd, then bring him back a couple minutes into the 4th. Or even better: take Rubio out with a few minutes left in the 3rd and give him that break and the quarter break, then give him the whole 4th.

That noise we're all hearing is the season swirling down the drain. It's probably too late already. But for the love of Pooh Richardson on a popsicle stick, can we please go down with Rubio playing in the 4th quarter? If anything it gives him a chance to get better.

(and another rotation question: what happened to Shved? guy was finally showing signs of life and yet he has been regulated to the bench in favor of the anti-point guard Barea, and Bud, who clearly is not ready to contribute.)

At some point JJ has to play. If you do what you said instead of being up 10 when JJ came in, they would of never had that 10 point lead in the first place

[Mstermisty [enjin:6864008]]

True, whenever you bring JJ in things can fall apart. But lets say you bring him in with a few minutes left in the 3rd, then if New Orleans goes on a run then you get the quarter break to re-group and come back with Ricky. Even if the lead shrunk up you give Ricky 12 minutes to run the offense and get it done. Lately the pattern has been to bring back Ricky late in the 4th or not at all. Tonight I thought Adelman waited 2 to 3 minutes too long. At the 8 minute mark things were heading south, on both ends of the court. That's where you had to bring Ricky back. But the damage was done by that time and the crowd was into it. We almost pulled it out, but of course that's when shots like the Roberts 3 pointer start falling in.

Like I said, Ricky is by no means the 4th quarter savior. But I'd rather fail with him than JJ at this point. My simple solution from here on out: Ricky should play a minimum of 10 minutes of every 4th quarter that isn't a blowout.

[WildWolf2813]

moving forward, if Flip had balls he'd give Adelman a chance to resign with some dignity or outright fire him and replace him with Flip's son

Then, you trot this lineup out there

C Pek /Turiaf
PF Love /Dieng
SF Muhammad /Brewer
SG Martin /Shved
PG Rubio

if we don't play Dieng and Muhammad and we draft 2 more rookies, it's just like having 4 new rookies on a team that's supposedly not trying to rebuild.

Factor in the inevitable Love trade where we'll get a pick and/or some stashed prospect, and now you have nearly half your roster completely and utterly green while the rest of them shouldn't even be here.

If you're stare down the possibility of 10 more rebuilding years, might as well get a head start and play the kids.

[KiwiMatt]

Barea simply tries to do much of the second units scoring and he just doesn't show interest in setting team mates up on a consistent basis. Perfect example tonight. We were up 10 heading in to the 4th and Barea starts playing hero ball turning it over twice in key moments and missing shots he shouldn't be taking. Soon enough we lost the lead. There was no excuse for him taking those shots playing next to Love and Martin at that stage of the game.

Budinger is worthless at the moment and his minutes need to go back to Shved, who atleast was showing some signs of breaking out - only to lose minutes. LMAM and Cunningham should never play together in the lineup, both are just too limited offensively. We really lack a couple of 3 and D type players. Maybe Muhammad could develop in to one, if only he got minutes.

Overall I think the problem is a combination of things. Pek and Love have been good for us, Rubio, Martin and Brewer have been ok, but the rest have just been hopeless and don't look like NBA players.

[worldK]

moving forward, if Flip had balls he'd give Adelman a chance to resign with some dignity or outright fire him and replace him with Flip's son

Then, you trot this lineup out there

C Pek /Turiaf
PF Love /Dieng
SF Muhammad /Brewer
SG Martin /Shved
PG Rubio

if we don't play Dieng and Muhammad and we draft 2 more rookies, it's just like having 4 new rookies on a team that's supposedly not trying to rebuild.

Factor in the inevitable Love trade where we'll get a pick and/or some stashed prospect, and now you have nearly half your roster completely and utterly green while the rest of them shouldn't even be here.

If you're stare down the possibility of 10 more rebuilding years, might as well get a head start and play the kids.

If rubio is starting with love,pek,martin and bazz then forget about him ever developing as a offensive player. I dont see how he gets more than 5 shots playing with those 4.

I could see the argument pf giving the rookies a shot, but more than anything we need rubio to develop into a competent offensive player. He needs to take and make shots in real games. Rubio is the key for us, if he could even just reach Luc Ridnour level as an offensive player, that would be huge for the whole team.

[Coolbreeze44]

No question Ricky needs to get more minutes in the 4th, and Barea less. But don't tell me about Shved. Shved is not an NBA player and I would have him at the end of the bench. The only guy he should play in front of is Hummel. Everybody else should be in the rotation ahead of him.