sjm34 wrote:I can understand wanting to keep the pick and finding a good SF with it. Everything else would likely make me give up on the team. We traded a decent PF/SF backup away for Luc. One of our worst trades ever imo. I hope our FO is smart enough to realize that Price and Hummel have no business on an NBA roster. Unfortunately I don't think we can use smart and Flip in the same sentence.
You're kidding me, right? Can you explain how that was the "worst trade ever"? Or even a bad trade? DWill has had 2 good games since going to the Kings. His first game there and last night. That's really it.
DW has scored over 20 three times, and been in double figures an additional 20 times. Luc has made it to double digits 2 times. DW is 22 years old while Luc is 27. What that means is that one guy will likely improve, while the other won't.
DWill has put up better offensive numbers than I thought when I made my post, but I still don't think it was a terrible trade. Like LST said, it was pretty much a wash of a trade. Neither player is going to move the needle either way. I would rather not have either and just give those minutes to Shabazz.
sjm34 wrote:I can understand wanting to keep the pick and finding a good SF with it. Everything else would likely make me give up on the team. We traded a decent PF/SF backup away for Luc. One of our worst trades ever imo. I hope our FO is smart enough to realize that Price and Hummel have no business on an NBA roster. Unfortunately I don't think we can use smart and Flip in the same sentence.
You're kidding me, right? Can you explain how that was the "worst trade ever"? Or even a bad trade? DWill has had 2 good games since going to the Kings. His first game there and last night. That's really it.
DW has scored over 20 three times, and been in double figures an additional 20 times. Luc has made it to double digits 2 times. DW is 22 years old while Luc is 27. What that means is that one guy will likely improve, while the other won't.
Last night DWill vs the wolves>>> 21Min,,,6 points,,1 Rebound,,, 0 Ast,,,0 stl ,,0 Blks,,Man i miss that guy lol..
sjm34 wrote:I can understand wanting to keep the pick and finding a good SF with it. Everything else would likely make me give up on the team. We traded a decent PF/SF backup away for Luc. One of our worst trades ever imo. I hope our FO is smart enough to realize that Price and Hummel have no business on an NBA roster. Unfortunately I don't think we can use smart and Flip in the same sentence.
You're kidding me, right? Can you explain how that was the "worst trade ever"? Or even a bad trade? DWill has had 2 good games since going to the Kings. His first game there and last night. That's really it.
DW has scored over 20 three times, and been in double figures an additional 20 times. Luc has made it to double digits 2 times. DW is 22 years old while Luc is 27. What that means is that one guy will likely improve, while the other won't.
Last night DWill vs the wolves>>> 21Min,,,6 points,,1 Rebound,,, 0 Ast,,,0 stl ,,0 Blks,,Man i miss that guy lol..
He was also a +10 while he was on the floor. Best plus/minus by far on his team.
First game against the wolves he was 7/11 for 16pts with 5 rebs, 2 ast, and a steal helping his lowly kings team defeat the wolves in Minnesota. Of course his counterpart never got on the floor. Maybe we could have won that game and a few others and still been in PO contention. LOL!
It amazes me that a D-Will discussion is still occurring. D-will is playing pretty decent as a back up on the worst team in the west. It seems like a perfect situation for him. We should be happy for him.
sjm34 wrote:I can understand wanting to keep the pick and finding a good SF with it. Everything else would likely make me give up on the team. We traded a decent PF/SF backup away for Luc. One of our worst trades ever imo. I hope our FO is smart enough to realize that Price and Hummel have no business on an NBA roster. Unfortunately I don't think we can use smart and Flip in the same sentence.
You're kidding me, right? Can you explain how that was the "worst trade ever"? Or even a bad trade? DWill has had 2 good games since going to the Kings. His first game there and last night. That's really it.
DW has scored over 20 three times, and been in double figures an additional 20 times. Luc has made it to double digits 2 times. DW is 22 years old while Luc is 27. What that means is that one guy will likely improve, while the other won't.
Last night DWill vs the wolves>>> 21Min,,,6 points,,1 Rebound,,, 0 Ast,,,0 stl ,,0 Blks,,Man i miss that guy lol..
He was also a +10 while he was on the floor. Best plus/minus by far on his team.
First game against the wolves he was 7/11 for 16pts with 5 rebs, 2 ast, and a steal helping his lowly kings team defeat the wolves in Minnesota. Of course his counterpart never got on the floor. Maybe we could have won that game and a few others and still been in PO contention. LOL!
Do you really think that the +/- stat means anything? Becaus you go on to say he played great the 1st game he played the wolves yet he was a -7 on the night? He's the same player that the wolves had,One good game then 15 bad games , He sucks IMO.
I never said he played great in the first game, and agree that +/- isn't a great indicator, but almost every one else who played significant minutes had a - on the team.
It's obvious that someone can't backup their position when they make outlandish statements like "One good game then 15 bad games". Do you really think he would be one of the first guys off their bench if that was true? Rick Adelman isn't their coach.
sjm34 wrote:I never said he played great in the first game, and agree that +/- isn't a great indicator, but almost every one else who played significant minutes had a - on the team.
It's obvious that someone can't backup their position when they make outlandish statements like "One good game then 15 bad games". Do you really think he would be one of the first guys off their bench if that was true? Rick Adelman isn't their coach.
People seem to still be mad that Williams underperformed without any development infrastructure in our franchise. Ditching Williams without some legitimate explanation and analysis of his progress was a mistake any way you look at it. People were so entrenched in saying "he sucks" and "he has low basketball IQ" to admit their mistake now. It is a shame. I could get on board with Markkbu wanting to wish him well if we had something useful in return. But we don't.
Our problems begin with Taylor and well all know shit runs down hill. The ineptitude of Kahn, Flip, and Adelman all include the influence of the Mankato doofus. I legitimately believe all of these individuals have performed below their potential because of the horseshit environment Taylor creates. The main issue we are dealing with (Love leaving early) is easily placed on Kahn but I don't buy that for a second. Taylor is a cheap moron who is still reeling that KG took so much money from him. Only Taylor would say let's negotiate with our obvious max player. Kahn was nothing more than a fall guy, which is likely why Taylor had him there in the first place. Same thing with Flip and McHale. We keep seeing Taylor aiming to familiarity. There is no reason Rob Babcock should have a job anywhere in the NBA after Toronto, but the Mankato Doofus brought him right back. The reality is that we can't be serious about the playoffs or anything until we get a new owner.
I appreciate you guys' dedication to D-Will. Obviously I believe you guys are dead wrong, but it is hard not to admire your loyalty to the idea that this guy might be decent someday.
