Phenom wrote: ↑Mon Jul 06, 2026 1:55 pm
I don't think Duren at a max would fit into the salary structure the Wolves have going forward. 3 max guys, if Melo stays at a max level isn't tenable anymore.
I think you’re right, Phenom. In the age of the 2nd apron, this sort of scenario just would’t work. Even taking a contract like PJ’s in a deal for Green would be challenging long term.
Still think it’s so dumb you get punished for your player being good. The pistons and Duren are at odds because Duren can get the super max, they don’t want to give him the super max but no other team can offer the super max.
Also the supermax Ant got was one of the reasons the wolves didn’t have the 21st pick. If Ant didn’t make all nba the wolves don’t need to salary dump Conley.
Just a dumb system.
Also it sucks for teams like the Thunder they need to salary dump good role players because they built a really good homegrown team
Phenom wrote: ↑Mon Jul 06, 2026 1:55 pm
I don't think Duren at a max would fit into the salary structure the Wolves have going forward. 3 max guys, if Melo stays at a max level isn't tenable anymore.
I think you’re right, Phenom. In the age of the 2nd apron, this sort of scenario just would’t work. Even taking a contract like PJ’s in a deal for Green would be challenging long term.
Still think it’s so dumb you get punished for your player being good. The pistons and Duren are at odds because Duren can get the super max, they don’t want to give him the super max but no other team can offer the super max.
Also the supermax Ant got was one of the reasons the wolves didn’t have the 21st pick. If Ant didn’t make all nba the wolves don’t need to salary dump Conley.
Just a dumb system.
Also it sucks for teams like the Thunder they need to salary dump good role players because they built a really good homegrown team
Anything above the max that a player can get from other teams should be tax exempt.
Phenom wrote: ↑Mon Jul 06, 2026 1:55 pm
I don't think Duren at a max would fit into the salary structure the Wolves have going forward. 3 max guys, if Melo stays at a max level isn't tenable anymore.
I think you’re right, Phenom. In the age of the 2nd apron, this sort of scenario just would’t work. Even taking a contract like PJ’s in a deal for Green would be challenging long term.
Still think it’s so dumb you get punished for your player being good. The pistons and Duren are at odds because Duren can get the super max, they don’t want to give him the super max but no other team can offer the super max.
Also the supermax Ant got was one of the reasons the wolves didn’t have the 21st pick. If Ant didn’t make all nba the wolves don’t need to salary dump Conley.
Just a dumb system.
Also it sucks for teams like the Thunder they need to salary dump good role players because they built a really good homegrown team
Or you could have negotiated better with both Naz and Randle last summer, take a million off each and you don't have to salary dump that 21st pick.
Lipoli390 wrote: ↑Mon Jul 06, 2026 1:28 pm
Question: Is Jalen Duren a realistic and reasonable sign-and-trade option for the Wolves? Rudy would clearly have to be included in any Wolves’ outgoing package. What other players would need to be included in both directions to make the deal both realistic and good for the Wolves? Imagine a front court of Beringer, Duren and Jaden with a backcourt trio of Ant, Ball and Ayo. Interesting.
Duran takes 90% of his shots inside 10 feet.
Yes. But he’s an elite two-way talent. Can Duren or Beringer expand their shooting range? Would they have to for things to work?
Lip go outside or buy some tickets to go to the Summer league and put down the trade machine! Lol
Lipoli390 wrote: ↑Mon Jul 06, 2026 1:28 pm
Question: Is Jalen Duren a realistic and reasonable sign-and-trade option for the Wolves? Rudy would clearly have to be included in any Wolves’ outgoing package. What other players would need to be included in both directions to make the deal both realistic and good for the Wolves? Imagine a front court of Beringer, Duren and Jaden with a backcourt trio of Ant, Ball and Ayo. Interesting.
that hard caps us and if the goal is to give Duren a 5 year deal at whatever number he wants, having Beringer is a pointless developmental project.
and even though Duren is only 22, his playoff performance was so bad, it made Randle's crap performance not seem so bad by comparison.
I think you’re right, Phenom. In the age of the 2nd apron, this sort of scenario just would’t work. Even taking a contract like PJ’s in a deal for Green would be challenging long term.
Still think it’s so dumb you get punished for your player being good. The pistons and Duren are at odds because Duren can get the super max, they don’t want to give him the super max but no other team can offer the super max.
Also the supermax Ant got was one of the reasons the wolves didn’t have the 21st pick. If Ant didn’t make all nba the wolves don’t need to salary dump Conley.
Just a dumb system.
Also it sucks for teams like the Thunder they need to salary dump good role players because they built a really good homegrown team
Or you could have negotiated better with both Naz and Randle last summer, take a million off each and you don't have to salary dump that 21st pick.
Sure, but think it’s different that teams get punished if their player is good. Kat making all nba made the wolves have to trade him, Brown got traded because of his contract.
Teams are losing star players because they are good and that team is the only team that can offer them that money and it punishes the rest of the team
Still think it’s so dumb you get punished for your player being good. The pistons and Duren are at odds because Duren can get the super max, they don’t want to give him the super max but no other team can offer the super max.
Also the supermax Ant got was one of the reasons the wolves didn’t have the 21st pick. If Ant didn’t make all nba the wolves don’t need to salary dump Conley.
Just a dumb system.
Also it sucks for teams like the Thunder they need to salary dump good role players because they built a really good homegrown team
Or you could have negotiated better with both Naz and Randle last summer, take a million off each and you don't have to salary dump that 21st pick.
Sure, but think it’s different that teams get punished if their player is good. Kat making all nba made the wolves have to trade him, Brown got traded because of his contract.
Teams are losing star players because they are good and that team is the only team that can offer them that money and it punishes the rest of the team
It's an incredibly stupid system and environment, and it's leading to a worse product!
Not that they're gonna care, they're just gonna see the huge engagement that trades are giving them in off-season right now and call it a success
Phenom wrote: ↑Mon Jul 06, 2026 1:55 pm
I don't think Duren at a max would fit into the salary structure the Wolves have going forward. 3 max guys, if Melo stays at a max level isn't tenable anymore.
I think you’re right, Phenom. In the age of the 2nd apron, this sort of scenario just would’t work. Even taking a contract like PJ’s in a deal for Green would be challenging long term.
Still think it’s so dumb you get punished for your player being good. The pistons and Duren are at odds because Duren can get the super max, they don’t want to give him the super max but no other team can offer the super max.
Also the supermax Ant got was one of the reasons the wolves didn’t have the 21st pick. If Ant didn’t make all nba the wolves don’t need to salary dump Conley.
Just a dumb system.
Also it sucks for teams like the Thunder they need to salary dump good role players because they built a really good homegrown team
LeBron seems to be trending toward Cleveland. Assuming that is what goes down, Kelly Olynyk is my personal favorite to bring in for one year as we gauge the development of both Rocco and Freeman. Along with Lyles, Olynyk would add to our size up front while still maintaining a threat from the outside. He is the type of player who will not create waves if he is not getting minutes, but can still be productive if he does get minutes. Are list of players that expect to be part of the regular rotation is getting pretty dang full...
Or you could have negotiated better with both Naz and Randle last summer, take a million off each and you don't have to salary dump that 21st pick.
Sure, but think it’s different that teams get punished if their player is good. Kat making all nba made the wolves have to trade him, Brown got traded because of his contract.
Teams are losing star players because they are good and that team is the only team that can offer them that money and it punishes the rest of the team
It's an incredibly stupid system and environment, and it's leading to a worse product!
Not that they're gonna care, they're just gonna see the huge engagement that trades are giving them in off-season right now and call it a success
Same with the Doncic trade. He was going to be one of the highest paid players in the NBA, so probably the main reason he was traded and because he was traded the Lakers by the rules couldn't offer him the same deal. It's silly.
I guess the one thing is that no super teams can really exist for too long, nor be built on the fly. 3 max players just doesn't work. So the parody is nice for fans in general.
