Wolves vs Grizz SL GDT
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Camden [enjin:6601484]
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Whew. Just looking at the box score now. This has been a rough one.
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Camden wrote:Whew. Just looking at the box score now. This has been a rough one.
It has been a really hard watch
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Moore has been really really bad
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Coolbreeze44
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Terrible basketball to say the least. This game is to basketball, as Camden is to posting. LOL j/k
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Harris is the only one who played well. He's the only player with any dog in him. Too many nice guys who all over-pass,
Minott will be fine. He's as long as McDanils but already a better ball-handler. He has all the key skills. He just needs to refund them and get into the weight room.
Moore has been very disappointing. But he's used to playing with a lot of great players at Duke. I think he'll be much better with the Wolves playing alongside KAT, Jaden and Ant.
Minott will be fine. He's as long as McDanils but already a better ball-handler. He has all the key skills. He just needs to refund them and get into the weight room.
Moore has been very disappointing. But he's used to playing with a lot of great players at Duke. I think he'll be much better with the Wolves playing alongside KAT, Jaden and Ant.
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SameOldNudityDrew
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Just got done watching.
That was a classic Summer League sh*tshow on both sides. Zero chemistry on offense (somewhat understandably), intense defense disrupting whatever flow the other team might actually have, desperate guys trying to force things too much on both sides leading to mistakes, a lack of trust undermining ball movement and a lack of familiarity leading to mistakes when guys do try to pass, plus some of the most horrific shooting I've seen in awhile. It's one game, so you don't want to put too much stock into it. But for Moore and Minott, being able to knock down the 3 is going to be really important for their ability to get playing time.
I haven't looked at the boxscore, but I'm sure it's ugly. Still, I thought both Moore and Minott showed some nice defensive plays at times, which is one key thing we'll need. Moore had a couple good clean strips, including one to take away an easy layup, and another chasedown contest that forced a guy to miss a layup. Minott contested shots pretty well, and did ok staying in front of smaller guys with the ball at times. Man, that Chandler kid is a freakin' quick little waterbug, huh?!
Minott's handle is a bit better than I thought in the halfcouft, but he does need to learn to play within himself more with the ball. Had a couple really sloppy turnovers trying to do too much. He did make a nice interior pass on that first play, and I like his work on the boards too, especially on offense. At the very least, he can be a disruptor. His FTs look sweet, but that outside shot looks like he's just trying to force it up off his shoulder. Lip, good suggestion about the weight room as I wonder if some greater leg strength might not be able to help him get that outside jumper looking a bit more like his FT form. But yeah, I think he should stick to a more limited offensive role (off-ball cuts, catch-and-shoot 3s, and transition finishing like a wide receiver). His greatest value is definitely on the defensive end at this point.
Despite the flashes of good defense I mentioned, Moore had a bad game on offense, for sure. But you can see the basic tools and poise are there. He looks better with the ball than Prince, which isn't bad. In addition to benefitting from playing with legit NBA guys, I think his game is just better suited to the more regular offense that he'll see in the NBA rather than this chaotic pick-up game atmosphere. His offense may end up being versatile but pedestrian, so his real value is going to have to come from being a great defender and/or making sure he can knock down outside shots.
It looked like they were letting Spagnolo initiate the offense a bit more in this one. I was a bit more impressed with him after this game than after the last one, but I think he's still got a long ways to go.
Harris looks solid. I think the big questions for him from what I can tell just from watching him two games are: 1) does he have the quickness to really stay with the super-quick guards in the NBA, and 2) how is his outside shot? Otherwise, I like how engaged he is on both ends of the ball. His D looks good and he's able to finish around the rim.
Anybody else think Tee Morant doesn't quite realize he's the dad? My kids are younger, but if I tried to hang out with them and their friends like Tee does with Ja and the guys on the sidelines, my kids would definitely be giving me the stink-eye. Or maybe that's just me. I guess if I looked as young as he does at our age I'd try to pass for 20-something too!
That was a classic Summer League sh*tshow on both sides. Zero chemistry on offense (somewhat understandably), intense defense disrupting whatever flow the other team might actually have, desperate guys trying to force things too much on both sides leading to mistakes, a lack of trust undermining ball movement and a lack of familiarity leading to mistakes when guys do try to pass, plus some of the most horrific shooting I've seen in awhile. It's one game, so you don't want to put too much stock into it. But for Moore and Minott, being able to knock down the 3 is going to be really important for their ability to get playing time.
I haven't looked at the boxscore, but I'm sure it's ugly. Still, I thought both Moore and Minott showed some nice defensive plays at times, which is one key thing we'll need. Moore had a couple good clean strips, including one to take away an easy layup, and another chasedown contest that forced a guy to miss a layup. Minott contested shots pretty well, and did ok staying in front of smaller guys with the ball at times. Man, that Chandler kid is a freakin' quick little waterbug, huh?!
Minott's handle is a bit better than I thought in the halfcouft, but he does need to learn to play within himself more with the ball. Had a couple really sloppy turnovers trying to do too much. He did make a nice interior pass on that first play, and I like his work on the boards too, especially on offense. At the very least, he can be a disruptor. His FTs look sweet, but that outside shot looks like he's just trying to force it up off his shoulder. Lip, good suggestion about the weight room as I wonder if some greater leg strength might not be able to help him get that outside jumper looking a bit more like his FT form. But yeah, I think he should stick to a more limited offensive role (off-ball cuts, catch-and-shoot 3s, and transition finishing like a wide receiver). His greatest value is definitely on the defensive end at this point.
Despite the flashes of good defense I mentioned, Moore had a bad game on offense, for sure. But you can see the basic tools and poise are there. He looks better with the ball than Prince, which isn't bad. In addition to benefitting from playing with legit NBA guys, I think his game is just better suited to the more regular offense that he'll see in the NBA rather than this chaotic pick-up game atmosphere. His offense may end up being versatile but pedestrian, so his real value is going to have to come from being a great defender and/or making sure he can knock down outside shots.
It looked like they were letting Spagnolo initiate the offense a bit more in this one. I was a bit more impressed with him after this game than after the last one, but I think he's still got a long ways to go.
Harris looks solid. I think the big questions for him from what I can tell just from watching him two games are: 1) does he have the quickness to really stay with the super-quick guards in the NBA, and 2) how is his outside shot? Otherwise, I like how engaged he is on both ends of the ball. His D looks good and he's able to finish around the rim.
Anybody else think Tee Morant doesn't quite realize he's the dad? My kids are younger, but if I tried to hang out with them and their friends like Tee does with Ja and the guys on the sidelines, my kids would definitely be giving me the stink-eye. Or maybe that's just me. I guess if I looked as young as he does at our age I'd try to pass for 20-something too!
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Ugly game.
Minott played more like what we would have expected before his terrific 1st game. I actually thought his 3 looked just fine. He tied to do too much on offense but this is the time to actually do a bit more. All things considered it was another positive game for him IMO.
Moore was meh on offense. D was fine.
Spagnolo had a solid game with some good and bad but I like what I see from him. He has some game and some nice skills
Kevon Harris was the only guy that was able to actually get some buckets. He looked fine.
McCormick deserves a mention as he was solid. Matt Lewis is also a really solid player. He isn't an NBA player but at this level and G-league he is a good player to have. He could have a nice career playing internationally.
I thought Whitney did positive things. He played within himself and did mostly good things. He looks pretty long. I hope we get to see more of him.
Laravia looked like a guy that shouldn't even have been drafted.
They kept Lofton Jr from beating them so that's something.
Aldama looked really good.
Minott played more like what we would have expected before his terrific 1st game. I actually thought his 3 looked just fine. He tied to do too much on offense but this is the time to actually do a bit more. All things considered it was another positive game for him IMO.
Moore was meh on offense. D was fine.
Spagnolo had a solid game with some good and bad but I like what I see from him. He has some game and some nice skills
Kevon Harris was the only guy that was able to actually get some buckets. He looked fine.
McCormick deserves a mention as he was solid. Matt Lewis is also a really solid player. He isn't an NBA player but at this level and G-league he is a good player to have. He could have a nice career playing internationally.
I thought Whitney did positive things. He played within himself and did mostly good things. He looks pretty long. I hope we get to see more of him.
Laravia looked like a guy that shouldn't even have been drafted.
They kept Lofton Jr from beating them so that's something.
Aldama looked really good.