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[Coolbreeze44]

I could totally see them trading Towns next season. I almost think this could have been Connelly's plan all along. If you were going to move the team to Ant, you need a reason to show Kat's deficiencies. The early results are in, and KAT can't really play the 4, and you wont get the same value for Rudy moving forward. Kat would bring a nice haul to build around Ant, Jaden, and Gobert.

I quibble with "KAT can't play the 4" because one could also say he can't play the 5. Ever see him try to battle JoVal or Embiid in the paint? Not pretty! Or how about his drop pick and roll coverage? Disaster! He fits with Gobert in a lot of ways in my opinion.

In my mind the reason for trading KAT isn't about his deficiencies, but about the value he would bring back to the franchise in a trade such that Connelly could reshape the roster around Ant and Jaden without completely tanking next season.

Excellent post Q. I think you are right on with these points. We've proven we can't win with KAT, why not try something different while replenishing our assets at the same time?

[WildWolf2813]

I could totally see them trading Towns next season. I almost think this could have been Connelly's plan all along. If you were going to move the team to Ant, you need a reason to show Kat's deficiencies. The early results are in, and KAT can't really play the 4, and you wont get the same value for Rudy moving forward. Kat would bring a nice haul to build around Ant, Jaden, and Gobert.

I quibble with "KAT can't play the 4" because one could also say he can't play the 5. Ever see him try to battle JoVal or Embiid in the paint? Not pretty! Or how about his drop pick and roll coverage? Disaster! He fits with Gobert in a lot of ways in my opinion.

In my mind the reason for trading KAT isn't about his deficiencies, but about the value he would bring back to the franchise in a trade such that Connelly could reshape the roster around Ant and Jaden without completely tanking next season.

Excellent post Q. I think you are right on with these points. We've proven we can't win with KAT, why not try something different while replenishing our assets at the same time?

Because KAT's reputation will affect your return more than it should. We'll have to live with 40 cents on the dollar in a KAT trade factoring in that he's on a super max and he's probably a top 5-10 most hated player in the league.

Now with having Gobert around, deals where for example, we woulda gotten a Capela or an Ayton back aren't realistic anymore (not that I woulda wanted those guys here anyway).

[thedoper]

I could totally see them trading Towns next season. I almost think this could have been Connelly's plan all along. If you were going to move the team to Ant, you need a reason to show Kat's deficiencies. The early results are in, and KAT can't really play the 4, and you wont get the same value for Rudy moving forward. Kat would bring a nice haul to build around Ant, Jaden, and Gobert.

I quibble with "KAT can't play the 4" because one could also say he can't play the 5. Ever see him try to battle JoVal or Embiid in the paint? Not pretty! Or how about his drop pick and roll coverage? Disaster! He fits with Gobert in a lot of ways in my opinion.

In my mind the reason for trading KAT isn't about his deficiencies, but about the value he would bring back to the franchise in a trade such that Connelly could reshape the roster around Ant and Jaden without completely tanking next season.

Yeah that was kind of where I was going. I look at it as KAT at the 4 was a last ditch effort by the franchise to see if we could build anything around him since building around him at the 5 still showed a lot of independent challenges in previous iterations of this team. Kat has enough talent and is a positive asset in many facets of the game. I just think building around him as a star is problematic. If KAT was ok with being a complimentary piece he'd thrive. I just dont see that happening here. But yes he is overwhelmingly our best shot of getting value in return, unless of course they were open to dealing Ant, which would be insanity imo.

[Q-is-here]

I could totally see them trading Towns next season. I almost think this could have been Connelly's plan all along. If you were going to move the team to Ant, you need a reason to show Kat's deficiencies. The early results are in, and KAT can't really play the 4, and you wont get the same value for Rudy moving forward. Kat would bring a nice haul to build around Ant, Jaden, and Gobert.

I quibble with "KAT can't play the 4" because one could also say he can't play the 5. Ever see him try to battle JoVal or Embiid in the paint? Not pretty! Or how about his drop pick and roll coverage? Disaster! He fits with Gobert in a lot of ways in my opinion.

In my mind the reason for trading KAT isn't about his deficiencies, but about the value he would bring back to the franchise in a trade such that Connelly could reshape the roster around Ant and Jaden without completely tanking next season.

Excellent post Q. I think you are right on with these points. We've proven we can't win with KAT, why not try something different while replenishing our assets at the same time?

Because KAT's reputation will affect your return more than it should. We'll have to live with 40 cents on the dollar in a KAT trade factoring in that he's on a super max and he's probably a top 5-10 most hated player in the league.

Now with having Gobert around, deals where for example, we woulda gotten a Capela or an Ayton back aren't realistic anymore (not that I woulda wanted those guys here anyway).

I don't really believe he's as de-valued as you make him out to be. He's in the prime of his career and a proven plus player. Lots of teams already have a strong culture of leadership that he can just be assimilated versus feeling like he carries the weight of the franchise on his shoulders.

[60WinTim]

I am not sure Nowell and Reid will garner a lot of value, as both are unrestricted FAs in the offseason. They could stick in the NBA, but the asking price will not be high enough to warrant a trade just to get either one's Bird rights.

[Phenom]

I am not sure Nowell and Reid will garner a lot of value, as both are unrestricted FAs in the offseason. They could stick in the NBA, but the asking price will not be high enough to warrant a trade just to get either one's Bird rights.

It would probably be along the lines of what Malik Beasley and Juancho got the Nuggets when in the same predicament. A salary matching vet in Gerald Green, a late first and maybe a young player (Bates Diop). Is that better than them walking? Probably.

[Camden [enjin:6601484]]

I am not sure Nowell and Reid will garner a lot of value, as both are unrestricted FAs in the offseason. They could stick in the NBA, but the asking price will not be high enough to warrant a trade just to get either one's Bird rights.

Since we're going way down the "what if" road in terms of trading Karl-Anthony Towns, I would be more aggressive in retaining/re-signing Naz Reid in that scenario. You would theoretically still need a counter to smaller lineups and Reid has proven capable of punishing teams in that manner. He'd also have a more consistent role on the team, which would probably help those negotiations.

[thedoper]

Towns for RJ Barrett, Toppin or Randle, Quickly and 3 unprotected firsts. Is this a potential ballpark of what we would be looking at? This is maybe the more generous version of a trade or switch some of the players, etc. I could get behind a deal like this with the Knicks. Would love to get some unprotected Knicks picks.

[Carlos Danger]

I am not sure Nowell and Reid will garner a lot of value, as both are unrestricted FAs in the offseason. They could stick in the NBA, but the asking price will not be high enough to warrant a trade just to get either one's Bird rights.

I am not sure Nowell and Reid will garner a lot of value, as both are unrestricted FAs in the offseason. They could stick in the NBA, but the asking price will not be high enough to warrant a trade just to get either one's Bird rights.

It would probably be along the lines of what Malik Beasley and Juancho got the Nuggets when in the same predicament. A salary matching vet in Gerald Green, a late first and maybe a young player (Bates Diop). Is that better than them walking? Probably.

I am thinking similar to you. Reid and Nowell are useful players that I could see having some value. If neither are coming back next year, wouldn't it make sense to deal them? IDK, guess it depends how we are playing and what they would bring back. I was thinking they might add value if attached to another bigger player (like Ant or DLO).

This thread sort of went a different direction than I had planned (which is fine). I was more looking for thoughts on what we could do to improve THIS YEAR's team at the trade deadline. Yes, we can and should explore trading Towns next year if we flop this year. But I'm just putting myself in TC's shoes. I pulled of a HUGE signature move trade of most of my draft picks for this decade. And I'm so confident in the results, I don't even worry about protection on those picks. I'm sure as hell not going to admit defeat by mid-season. Not a chance. Nope. I'm going down with the ship. I might even deal for a third tower. Forget about twin towers, I'm going triple towers - it's never been done :-).

[Camden [enjin:6601484]]

Towns for RJ Barrett, Toppin or Randle, Quickly and 3 unprotected firsts. Is this a potential ballpark of what we would be looking at? This is maybe the more generous version of a trade or switch some of the players, etc. I could get behind a deal like this with the Knicks. Would love to get some unprotected Knicks picks.

I was thinking of firing up a trade thread earlier, but it's still probably too early for that. This current group could indeed click at any moment this season, similar to how they looked against Indiana, and at that point we'd probably be better holding Karl-Anthony Towns versus trading him...

With that said, I think I would be calling Toronto in the case that Towns were to be shopped. They were rumored to be interested in making a splashy acquisition at the five this off-season. I'd want no less than O.G. Anunoby, Precious Achiuwa, and Thaddeus Young (salary) plus three unprotected first-round picks in 2023, 2025, and 2027.