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Fuck this, He didn't do anything (except probably buy something stolen as if we all haven't at some point unknowingly). Who cares if he had weed and some guns. It's not like he shot someone. Bullshit police need to quit harassing people.

WolvesFan21 wrote:Fuck this, He didn't do anything (except probably buy something stolen as if we all haven't at some point unknowingly). Who cares if he had weed and some guns. It's not like he shot someone. Bullshit police need to quit harassing people.

Reading this gave me a headache. If the reports are true, then the police weren't harassing him. They were upholding the law and doing their jobs. Get a grip.

WolvesFan21 wrote:Fuck this, He didn't do anything (except probably buy something stolen as if we all haven't at some point unknowingly). Who cares if he had weed and some guns. It's not like he shot someone. Bullshit police need to quit harassing people.

LOL! Wait, you're joking, right?

TheSP wrote:

WolvesFan21 wrote:Fuck this, He didn't do anything (except probably buy something stolen as if we all haven't at some point unknowingly). Who cares if he had weed and some guns. It's not like he shot someone. Bullshit police need to quit harassing people.

LOL! Wait, you're joking, right?

Of course not. What did he do to hurt someone? I don't care what the law says, I care if a person was harmed. Which in this case, having stolen property "allegedly" is nothing. We can all assume he's not out robbing peoples houses right? The dude has millions of dollars. I don't care what weapons anyone has in their house or on them. It's their right to defend themselves and family. Gun regulations are all unconstitutional.

WolvesFan21 wrote:Fuck this, He didn't do anything (except probably buy something stolen as if we all haven't at some point unknowingly). Who cares if he had weed and some guns. It's not like he shot someone. Bullshit police need to quit harassing people.

If northern Minnesota would stop voting in that weasel Pat Gazelka so Walz could hurry up and legalize marijuana that portion of it wouldn't have been an issue.

https://theathletic.com/2096466/2020/09/27/malik-beasley-arrested-facing-two-charges-one-involving-stolen-property/

I doubt he would be arrested if it were only pot possession. And the charges don't just consist of receiving stolen property; they also include include concealment of stolen property. That's a problem for Malik because that can't be inadvertent or unknowing. I hadn't heard about the felony weapons possession, but that's a big problem for him if true.

But he's presumed innocent under the law and I think we should consider these reports with that in mind. For all we know he's been letting friends or acquaintances use his house without knowing they were using it for illegal purposes. If that's the case, he's just kind of dumb and has poor choice in friends.

WildWolf2813 wrote:Really dumb, but shouldn't affect how this team goes about bringing him back.

This is my sentiment too. Hopefully it can save us a few million. Now we can give him his 4mil QO and see what kind of offers he gets with a weapons charge hanging over him. We may have just gotten the deal of the century.

I don't care about the weed, but it sounds like he pulled a gun on somebody, which is really serious.

There are a lot of details we don't know. How many guns did they find? What kind?

If there were a bunch of people at his house with weed and guns, it does also raise real questions about his judgement. Has he been participating in the workouts with the rest of the team? What kind of a reflection is it on his focus if this is how he's spending his time?

Seriously, America, WTF with the guns? I grew up in MN in a hunting family and we had guns. It was part of our family culture. I still remember the 30-30 my grandpa gave me when I first started deer hunting, and I remember my first deer. I get the allure of that. And sure, in places like Alaska, I get that you want something if you're going to be in bear country or something. But with just a few exceptions, allowing guns is just not worth the trouble, especially when it comes to handguns, semi-automatic rifles, etc.

I think this is a totally underreported part of the police killings everybody's been talking about. The racial bias is real--stats show black people are 2-3 times more likely to be killed than whites--but I can sympathize with cops in America being on edge because they could at any point be walking into a deadly scenario because of all the guns. I'm guessing that's a big part about why cops are so quick to use force. Their work must constantly be incredibly stressful because of all the guns. They live on edge because it is a little like they're living in a war zone.

Here's a stat for you. Cops kill about 1,000 Americans every year. I've lived in Germany for the last 6 years. Do you know how many people cops shot and killed last year? 14. And that tied for the highest in 20 years here. Many years it's single digits.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_killings_by_law_enforcement_officers_in_Germany

Germany's got about 80 million people, so it's about a quarter of the population, but quadruple 14 to 56 and you're still nowhere near 1,000. And this doesn't even touch on the disparity in gun violence by non-police. Most of this is suicide, which is underreported. But the numbers are still crazy.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_violence_in_the_United_States

Seriously, just read any random paragraph from that wikipedia page and it should make your stomach drop. Here's one:

"Compared to 22 other high-income nations, the U.S. gun-related homicide rate is 25 times higher. Although it has half the population of the other 22 nations combined, among those 22 nations studied, the U.S. had 82 percent of gun deaths, 90 percent of all women killed with guns, 91 percent of children under 14 and 92 percent of young people between ages 15 and 24 killed with guns."

Any guesses why Germany doesn't look anything like the U.S. in this regard? I'm sure a big reason is basically nobody has guns here because they're not allowed to. A few people in rural areas can get licenses for hunting rifles as there is some very regulated hunting allowed. Some others have guns for target practice at shooting clubs or for biathalon practice, but they are basically .22s with pellet bullets. Bolt action. Single shot. Glorified BB guns basically. But basically anything else is forbidden, especially handguns.

And is life that much worse without them?

Not at all. Life's pretty great. Germans basically do all the other leisurely things Americans do, so they don't miss guns there. And nobody really feels like they're missing out on a sense of security by owning a handgun because they also know nobody has one. Cops almost never fear for their lives in confrontations with people, I never even think about the possibility of anybody else having a gun here, I don't think I've ever heard of a mass shooting here, and I'm sure most interactions people have with the police are likewise much less stressful.

Recall also that DLO was arrested a year ago or so for possession as he tried to get some pot through security at an airport. I don't have a big issue with him smoking pot, but trying to bring it with him on a plane is incredibly dumb. In fact, using it is dumb since I think it's on the NBA's list of banned substances, which they test for periodically.

The Beasley incident may amount to very little. But regardless of the outcome, it inclines me even more to want the Wolves to emphasize character, intelligence and judgment in their draft decisions this Fall. It's not so much the fact that you'd rather have your players on the court than in prison. And it's not even the PR damage to the organization that concerns me. It's just the simple fact that the best players in the NBA tend to be smart and focused enough to avoid situations that expose them to felony arrests - or even misdemeanor arrests. Never in a million years would LeBron allow himself to be in a situation like DLO's situation in the airport a couple years ago or what appears to be the situation Beasley was in when recently arrested. Same for Giannis, Harden, Curry, Thompson, Durant or any number of the other top players in the League today.

So the Wolves had better be really serious and thorough in their due diligence when examining the character, focus and judgment of draft prospects.

thedoper wrote:

WildWolf2813 wrote:Really dumb, but shouldn't affect how this team goes about bringing him back.

This is my sentiment too. Hopefully it can save us a few million. Now we can give him his 4mil QO and see what kind of offers he gets with a weapons charge hanging over him. We may have just gotten the deal of the century.

Steph Curry signed a four-year, $44-million contract before winning two MVP's. That's probably the deal of the century right now, right? Haha