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Meh. This all comes back to Glen Taylor not seeing the bigger picture. It is his responsibility as owner to make sure the franchise is portrayed the best it can possibly be. This ordeal with Kevin Garnett, regardless of how stubborn he may or may not be, interferes with how the league sees the Minnesota Timberwolves. How embarrassing is it for Garnett to get his number retired with the Boston Celtics first? The answer to that is a big, bold VERY. The perception is that Minnesota doesn't take care of its best players. Garnett's number isn't retired. Add on to that the comments that were made about Kevin Love on his way out. Then there's the mess with Jimmy Butler. Why would any marquee free agent want to play for this franchise?

All of this falls back on to Taylor's shoulders one way or another. If you want to point blame at a single person, you should probably look at the owner.

Camden wrote:Meh. This all comes back to Glen Taylor not seeing the bigger picture. It is his responsibility as owner to make sure the franchise is portrayed the best it can possibly be. This ordeal with Kevin Garnett, regardless of how stubborn he may or may not be, interferes with how the league sees the Minnesota Timberwolves. How embarrassing is it for Garnett to get his number retired with the Boston Celtics first? The answer to that is a big, bold VERY. The perception is that Minnesota doesn't take care of its best players. Garnett's number isn't retired. Add on to that the comments that were made about Kevin Love on his way out. Then there's the mess with Jimmy Butler. Why would any marquee free agent want to play for this franchise?

All of this falls back on to Taylor's shoulders one way or another. If you want to point blame at a single person, you should probably look at the owner.

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Camden0916 wrote:Meh. This all comes back to Glen Taylor not seeing the bigger picture. It is his responsibility as owner to make sure the franchise is portrayed the best it can possibly be. This ordeal with Kevin Garnett, regardless of how stubborn he may or may not be, interferes with how the league sees the Minnesota Timberwolves. How embarrassing is it for Garnett to get his number retired with the Boston Celtics first? The answer to that is a big, bold VERY. The perception is that Minnesota doesn't take care of its best players. Garnett's number isn't retired. Add on to that the comments that were made about Kevin Love on his way out. Then there's the mess with Jimmy Butler. Why would any marquee free agent want to play for this franchise?

All of this falls back on to Taylor's shoulders one way or another. If you want to point blame at a single person, you should probably look at the owner.

Exactly. The fact that Taylor hasnt been able to figure this out is the problem. He is the owner, therefore this is all in his court. Plus hes got more evidence multiplying that hes a total douche bag in how he treats business people. It should take more than an invitation for Glen at this point. Beyond that, Glen gets zero credit for paying KG what he deserved at the time, especially when he stupidly lead the charge for a salary cap after that, effectively making it impossible to build a team around Garnett. Taylor is just the worst, Im dumbfounded that he has any supporters left.

Glen had some blame before the way KG views Glen overall but the recent events after Flip's death KG seemed quite clueless about how people and business works. In addition...I wonder if he found out soon after that he had lost a significant portion of his money that was weaseled out from under his nose. Man that had to suck. The people that are losing out to some extent is the fans. Hopefully nothing bad happens to KG before he finally has his jersey is retired. The guy has his issues but he isn't THAT bad of a dude and as a player he absolutely deserves to have his jersey retired by the wolves. It should be no surprise that he is having his jersey retired by Boston first. Not really need if you are familiar with KG's career.

Camden0916 wrote:Meh. This all comes back to Glen Taylor not seeing the bigger picture. It is his responsibility as owner to make sure the franchise is portrayed the best it can possibly be. This ordeal with Kevin Garnett, regardless of how stubborn he may or may not be, interferes with how the league sees the Minnesota Timberwolves. How embarrassing is it for Garnett to get his number retired with the Boston Celtics first? The answer to that is a big, bold VERY. The perception is that Minnesota doesn't take care of its best players. Garnett's number isn't retired. Add on to that the comments that were made about Kevin Love on his way out. Then there's the mess with Jimmy Butler. Why would any marquee free agent want to play for this franchise?

All of this falls back on to Taylor's shoulders one way or another. If you want to point blame at a single person, you should probably look at the owner.

That is a Texas sized bingo right there. Towns doesn't seem to be all that likable of an individual and we're all still championing for him and he's literally done nothing to earn it.
If it wasn't for KG making this team even remotely relevant the organization is probably not even here anymore. And people still bag on him. I don't get it.

PorkChop wrote:

Camden0916 wrote:Meh. This all comes back to Glen Taylor not seeing the bigger picture. It is his responsibility as owner to make sure the franchise is portrayed the best it can possibly be. This ordeal with Kevin Garnett, regardless of how stubborn he may or may not be, interferes with how the league sees the Minnesota Timberwolves. How embarrassing is it for Garnett to get his number retired with the Boston Celtics first? The answer to that is a big, bold VERY. The perception is that Minnesota doesn't take care of its best players. Garnett's number isn't retired. Add on to that the comments that were made about Kevin Love on his way out. Then there's the mess with Jimmy Butler. Why would any marquee free agent want to play for this franchise?

All of this falls back on to Taylor's shoulders one way or another. If you want to point blame at a single person, you should probably look at the owner.

That is a Texas sized bingo right there. Towns doesn't seem to be all that likable of an individual and we're all still championing for him and he's literally done nothing to earn it.
If it wasn't for KG making this team even remotely relevant the organization is probably not even here anymore. And people still bag on him. I don't get it.

People aren't bagging on him. Most fans, myself included, love what he did here and really appreciate his loyalty to the team over many years. A jersey retirement is for the fans, not the owner. It's between the player and the fan base that loves him. KG's decision - and it is his decision - to have his jersey retired in Boston and thus far not here is on KG and is a slight or all those fans that love him. It's not bagging on him to hold him accountable for HIS decision.

https://theathletic.com/1615949/2020/02/18/kevin-garnett-jersey-retirement-boston-celtics-minnesota-timberwolves-glen-taylor/

At the end of the day, for those of you who don't think so highly of KG, this is an argument you can't win. KG is held in high regard by damn near everybody, so whether you think he's right or wrong, Glen can't win in the court of public opinion and when KG has issues with you, people are gonna take his side. That strained relationship hurts this franchise more than anyone can calculate. When KG came back, that was when it felt like things were starting to heal with this team and good things started to happen (or at least we thought they were good). Ever since KG has departed that dark cloud that has hovered over this team is back.

The sad truth is that really good players, agents and media aren't gonna give this team a chance until KG and Glen are in a better place. If they're not, anyone still on Glen's side is gonna be alone on that ledge.

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PorkChop wrote:

Camden0916 wrote:Meh. This all comes back to Glen Taylor not seeing the bigger picture. It is his responsibility as owner to make sure the franchise is portrayed the best it can possibly be. This ordeal with Kevin Garnett, regardless of how stubborn he may or may not be, interferes with how the league sees the Minnesota Timberwolves. How embarrassing is it for Garnett to get his number retired with the Boston Celtics first? The answer to that is a big, bold VERY. The perception is that Minnesota doesn't take care of its best players. Garnett's number isn't retired. Add on to that the comments that were made about Kevin Love on his way out. Then there's the mess with Jimmy Butler. Why would any marquee free agent want to play for this franchise?

All of this falls back on to Taylor's shoulders one way or another. If you want to point blame at a single person, you should probably look at the owner.

That is a Texas sized bingo right there. Towns doesn't seem to be all that likable of an individual and we're all still championing for him and he's literally done nothing to earn it.
If it wasn't for KG making this team even remotely relevant the organization is probably not even here anymore. And people still bag on him. I don't get it.

People aren't bagging on him. Most fans, myself included, love what he did here and really appreciate his loyalty to the team over many years. A jersey retirement is for the fans, not the owner. It's between the player and the fan base that loves him. KG's decision - and it is his decision - to have his jersey retired in Boston and thus far not here is on KG and is a slight or all those fans that love him. It's not bagging on him to hold him accountable for HIS decision.

The owner benefits from the good PR that comes with a night like that, a night KG doesn't wanna give him specifically. You can say it's for the fans (and it is) but the day Glen is no longer the owner is the day KG begins clearing his schedule to have his number retired. He's not gonna give Glen the satisfaction of thinking they're somehow in a better place because they had this ceremony.

I'll always rip Taylor for his "tanking" comments after Garnett left... considering it was only a year removed from the Madsen Three Point Barrage fiasco. It was classless. Petty. And everything else.

BUT... should Taylor be forced to give Garnett part ownership of the team? There's so much we don't know about that angle. Is Garnett capable of buying in right now...