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monsterpile wrote:

crazy-canuck wrote:Man, the wizards are a hot mess.

They are getting blown out at home and are lifeless.

As much as we need a break from butler, the wiz need to dismantle that team more.

Some fun tweets to add to the Wizards tonight.

https://twitter.com/mrmichaellee/status/1058524139449958400?s=21


"Bradley Beal just grabbed the clipboard from Scott Brooks during the timeout & went to the bench to discuss a play with his teammates. Dwight Howard leaned in to add his thoughts."

Which leads to this terrific GIF

https://twitter.com/dannyleroux/status/1058525134603005952?s=21

So a team with a history of discord added Dwight Howard and Austin Rivers... and things got worse.

Wait... WHAT?

Shocked!

AbeVigodaLive wrote:

monsterpile wrote:

crazy-canuck wrote:Man, the wizards are a hot mess.

They are getting blown out at home and are lifeless.

As much as we need a break from butler, the wiz need to dismantle that team more.

Some fun tweets to add to the Wizards tonight.

https://twitter.com/mrmichaellee/status/1058524139449958400?s=21


"Bradley Beal just grabbed the clipboard from Scott Brooks during the timeout & went to the bench to discuss a play with his teammates. Dwight Howard leaned in to add his thoughts."

Which leads to this terrific GIF

https://twitter.com/dannyleroux/status/1058525134603005952?s=21

So a team with a history of discord added Dwight Howard and Austin Rivers... and things got worse.

Wait... WHAT?

Shocked!

And...Dwight has only played 1 game

monsterpile wrote:

AbeVigodaLive wrote:

monsterpile wrote:

crazy-canuck wrote:Man, the wizards are a hot mess.

They are getting blown out at home and are lifeless.

As much as we need a break from butler, the wiz need to dismantle that team more.

Some fun tweets to add to the Wizards tonight.

https://twitter.com/mrmichaellee/status/1058524139449958400?s=21


"Bradley Beal just grabbed the clipboard from Scott Brooks during the timeout & went to the bench to discuss a play with his teammates. Dwight Howard leaned in to add his thoughts."

Which leads to this terrific GIF

https://twitter.com/dannyleroux/status/1058525134603005952?s=21

So a team with a history of discord added Dwight Howard and Austin Rivers... and things got worse.

Wait... WHAT?

Shocked!

And...Dwight has only played 1 game

So obviously adding Jimmy isn't gonna happen in D.C.

Right now I can see only about 4 good teams in the East and only 2 bad teams in the West...

41 points, 4 assists and 4 rebounds, 3 steals and 2 blocks for Zach LaVine tonight. It will be quite a season as we watch LaVine, Buddy Hield, Jamal Murray, John Collins and Josh Richardson while at the same time watching Jimmy "I play when I want to play" Butler, along with Gorgui, Wiggins and Patton. Whoops, can't watch Patton play. Meanwhile, the mastermind behind all this is still employed by the patient idiot savant Glen Taylor. At least we have Okogie.

I am glad to see LaVine having a great year. It would have been interesting to see who Flip liked in that draft class of 2016.

I'm trying to not be that guy but the bulls have a better plus minus when lavine is off the court and it's not like he has a stud replacement. That is the 5th straight year that the team has been better when he is off the court.

Teams are out scoring them 10 pts per 100 possessions even zach is on the court and his most played lineup is literally the worst lineup in the NBA for lineups that qualify. Getting outscored by 24 pts per 100 possessions.

Don't get me wrong I love zach but he is turning out to be a Jamal Crawford on steroids

kekgeek1 wrote:I'm trying to not be that guy but the bulls have a better plus minus when lavine is off the court and it's not like he has a stud replacement. That is the 5th straight year that the team has been better when he is off the court.

Teams are out scoring them 10 pts per 100 possessions even zach is on the court and his most played lineup is literally the worst lineup in the NBA for lineups that qualify. Getting outscored by 24 pts per 100 possessions.

Don't get me wrong I love zach but he is turning out to be a Jamal Crawford on steroids

That's going to change. 41 points, 3 steals, 4 assists, 4 rebounds and 2 blocks isn't Jamal Crawford. LaVine is a better 3-point shooter, faster with the ball and a much better athlete. The plus/minus is a bad stat to evaluate LaVine given the quality of the teams he's played on as well as his age and the period during which he was recovering from ACL surgery. We'll see how he and his team progresses in the next few years. You might turn out to be right, but I think you'll end up being wrong on this one.

kekgeek1 wrote:I'm trying to not be that guy but the bulls have a better plus minus when lavine is off the court and it's not like he has a stud replacement. That is the 5th straight year that the team has been better when he is off the court.

Teams are out scoring them 10 pts per 100 possessions even zach is on the court and his most played lineup is literally the worst lineup in the NBA for lineups that qualify. Getting outscored by 24 pts per 100 possessions.

Don't get me wrong I love zach but he is turning out to be a Jamal Crawford on steroids

Take a closer look at who he's playing with. Watch one of his games also, still has plenty faults on defense but his offense game has matured outside of putting up ton of points efficiently.

It's not like he's going 1 on 5 throwing of terrible shots. He's handles and creating for other, driving to the hoop, getting fouled, scoring at the rim, on the break, and from the 3. He's a beast on offense.

lipoli390 wrote:

kekgeek1 wrote:I'm trying to not be that guy but the bulls have a better plus minus when lavine is off the court and it's not like he has a stud replacement. That is the 5th straight year that the team has been better when he is off the court.

Teams are out scoring them 10 pts per 100 possessions even zach is on the court and his most played lineup is literally the worst lineup in the NBA for lineups that qualify. Getting outscored by 24 pts per 100 possessions.

Don't get me wrong I love zach but he is turning out to be a Jamal Crawford on steroids

That's going to change. 41 points, 3 steals, 4 assists, 4 rebounds and 2 blocks isn't Jamal Crawford. LaVine is a better 3-point shooter, faster with the ball and a much better athlete. The plus/minus is a bad stat to evaluate LaVine given the quality of the teams he's played on as well as his age and the period during which he was recovering from ACL surgery. We'll see how he and his team progresses in the next few years. You might turn out to be right, but I think you'll end up being wrong on this one.

I understand that but the stats are still saying that the bulls get better when he is off the court. That has happened every year of his career. I love zach, it's just worry some how bad the teams he has been on get on D when he is in the game. Now he is becoming such a good offensive player it might offset that.