Game Report - Wolves v Clippers

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Looks like Teague has ramped up his aggressiveness, and some pundits have stated he is trying to make himself more attractive to other teams.
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CoolBreeze44 wrote:Looks like Teague has ramped up his aggressiveness, and some pundits have stated he is trying to make himself more attractive to other teams.


Irritating that he doesn't feel his paycheck is enough to justify ramping up his aggressiveness for his current team.
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Teague has been the most inconsistent player I've ever seen. Shoots 25% from three through 20 games then goes off for a few. Good or garbage. no in between.
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CoolBreeze44 wrote:Coming from me this may not sound genuine, but I thought Wig left everything he had on the court playing defense last night. He wasn't matched up with George and especially Kawhi very much, but when he was the effort was outstanding. And he helped to hold down the rest of the wings. I wish they would have given him more responsibility, but I understand that ROCO and Okogie are going to draw the tougher assignments. But no one should be complaining about Wig's D last night.


As you know, I'm a Wiggins skeptic. But I wholeheartedly agree with you, CooI. I meant to mention Wiggins effort in game report. I remember raving to my wife about Wiggins defensive effort several times during the game last night. My wife, another Wiggins skeptic, agreed.
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crazy-canuck wrote:
lipoli390 wrote:
Q12543 wrote:Thanks for the game report Lip. I didn't bother to watch this one as it was going to be an obvious loss. Of course ESPN's front page is just gushing over the Kawhi/George performance along with the obligatory 27 articles and pics of LeBron. Bleh!

Glad to hear our guys had some fight and that our two max players put up some numbers. But as we've seen time and again, these two aren't good enough defensively to get stops and ultimately therein lies the #1 problem with this team.


If the Wolves consistently play the way they played in every quarter but the 3rd last night, they have a good chance of beating any team in the League other than the handful of top teams like the Lakers, Clippers, Nuggets, Rockets, Sixers, Bucks, Celtics and Heat.

How close were we to winning last night? The Wolves lost by 7. Culver was 0-5 from the field and 0-3 from behind the arc. His threes were all great looks. If he had simply shot 2-5 (40%) from the field with one of those two baskets coming from behind the arc, that's 5 points. If Okogie had hit just one of his 4 missed 3-point attempts, that another 3 points. If Covington had hit just one more shot from the field (45% instead of 36%, that's another 2 or 3 points. That's at least 10 points if the key rotation players around Wiggins, Towns and Teague had simply shot poorly rather than horribly.

But I'll still come back to our two max players. They both played really well last night. But the Clippers' two stars out-scored them by 15 points. Yet, the margin of victory was 7 points. Our two max guys were stout scored by the Clippers' two max guys by a large margin. Slightly better shooting from Culver, Okogie and/or Covington could have made up for that gap, but alas we ended up with our 7th consecutive loss. The good news is that last night will ultimately improve our lottery position next summer. :)


Pg and kawhi got 88 pts on 55 shots.
Kat and wiggs got 73 on 42 shots.

I think they more than held their own trying to keep up with those 2 all nba players.


Clippers minus kawhi and george got 36 points off of 24 shots.
Wolves minus wiggs and kat got 44 points off of 43 shots. Take out Teague too, and its 22 pts off of 34 shots.

If we take 10 shots away from the other 9 guys (minus teague) and give them to kat and wiggs, maybe we win. But this free flowing 5 out offense where everyone has the green light bit us in the ass.


Crazy - Excellent points backed up by the game stats. When you dig a layer deeper as you just did, it's the system and poor shooting around KAT and Wiggins that seem primarily responsible for the loss. On the other hand, Kawhi and PG took more shots in part, perhaps, because they're better players - i.e., better at creating their own shots. I'm not sure what to think except the following: This team needs to add an elite 3-point shooter or two to the roster. Right now, KAT and Wiggins are surrounded by really poor shooters except for Covington and he's not great.
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CoolBreeze44 wrote:Looks like Teague has ramped up his aggressiveness, and some pundits have stated he is trying to make himself more attractive to other teams.


I hope his aggressive and excellent play continue and that he drives his trade value up substantially as a result. Maybe we'll have a chance to get more than a 2nd round pick in return for him by February.
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lipoli390 wrote:
crazy-canuck wrote:
lipoli390 wrote:
Q12543 wrote:Thanks for the game report Lip. I didn't bother to watch this one as it was going to be an obvious loss. Of course ESPN's front page is just gushing over the Kawhi/George performance along with the obligatory 27 articles and pics of LeBron. Bleh!

Glad to hear our guys had some fight and that our two max players put up some numbers. But as we've seen time and again, these two aren't good enough defensively to get stops and ultimately therein lies the #1 problem with this team.


If the Wolves consistently play the way they played in every quarter but the 3rd last night, they have a good chance of beating any team in the League other than the handful of top teams like the Lakers, Clippers, Nuggets, Rockets, Sixers, Bucks, Celtics and Heat.

How close were we to winning last night? The Wolves lost by 7. Culver was 0-5 from the field and 0-3 from behind the arc. His threes were all great looks. If he had simply shot 2-5 (40%) from the field with one of those two baskets coming from behind the arc, that's 5 points. If Okogie had hit just one of his 4 missed 3-point attempts, that another 3 points. If Covington had hit just one more shot from the field (45% instead of 36%, that's another 2 or 3 points. That's at least 10 points if the key rotation players around Wiggins, Towns and Teague had simply shot poorly rather than horribly.

But I'll still come back to our two max players. They both played really well last night. But the Clippers' two stars out-scored them by 15 points. Yet, the margin of victory was 7 points. Our two max guys were stout scored by the Clippers' two max guys by a large margin. Slightly better shooting from Culver, Okogie and/or Covington could have made up for that gap, but alas we ended up with our 7th consecutive loss. The good news is that last night will ultimately improve our lottery position next summer. :)


Pg and kawhi got 88 pts on 55 shots.
Kat and wiggs got 73 on 42 shots.

I think they more than held their own trying to keep up with those 2 all nba players.


Clippers minus kawhi and george got 36 points off of 24 shots.
Wolves minus wiggs and kat got 44 points off of 43 shots. Take out Teague too, and its 22 pts off of 34 shots.

If we take 10 shots away from the other 9 guys (minus teague) and give them to kat and wiggs, maybe we win. But this free flowing 5 out offense where everyone has the green light bit us in the ass.


Crazy - Excellent points backed up by the game stats. When you dig a layer deeper as you just did, it's the system and poor shooting around KAT and Wiggins that seem primarily responsible for the loss. On the other hand, Kawhi and PG took more shots in part, perhaps, because they're better players - i.e., better at creating their own shots. I'm not sure what to think except the following: This team needs to add an elite 3-point shooter or two to the roster. Right now, KAT and Wiggins are surrounded by really poor shooters except for Covington and he's not great.


Last night, the clipps were playing kawhi and George with role guys. No possession went by without one of them touching the ball.

We go through a bunch of possessions where kat and wiggs dont touch the ball. Our 13 other guys should be playing off of kat and wiggs not the other way around. Not even for one possession. We are expecting guys to do something they aren't capable of. Culver and okogie just aren't guys where you can say run pnr or attack the rim. Okogie i think woukd be great purely off broken plays, cuts, and spot ups. Then we have dieng trying to post up or dribble. Spot up or pass out.

I think the system works because wiggs looks better and eventhough kat isn't taking as many shots as we would like, hes touching the ball and creating offense for others. We have a big and a wing that can both create offense and work off each other, it's just a shame we don't. Kat has been great at hitting wiggs on cuts, and wiggs has been great at finishing that play.
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lipoli390 wrote:
Q12543 wrote:Thanks for the game report Lip. I didn't bother to watch this one as it was going to be an obvious loss. Of course ESPN's front page is just gushing over the Kawhi/George performance along with the obligatory 27 articles and pics of LeBron. Bleh!

Glad to hear our guys had some fight and that our two max players put up some numbers. But as we've seen time and again, these two aren't good enough defensively to get stops and ultimately therein lies the #1 problem with this team.


If the Wolves consistently play the way they played in every quarter but the 3rd last night, they have a good chance of beating any team in the League other than the handful of top teams like the Lakers, Clippers, Nuggets, Rockets, Sixers, Bucks, Celtics and Heat.

How close were we to winning last night? The Wolves lost by 7. Culver was 0-5 from the field and 0-3 from behind the arc. His threes were all great looks. If he had simply shot 2-5 (40%) from the field with one of those two baskets coming from behind the arc, that's 5 points. If Okogie had hit just one of his 4 missed 3-point attempts, that another 3 points. If Covington had hit just one more shot from the field (45% instead of 36%, that's another 2 or 3 points. That's at least 10 points if the key rotation players around Wiggins, Towns and Teague had simply shot poorly rather than horribly.



That's a dangerous road to go down though. It's more complex than that. The other team plays to the score a bit.

Personally, I thought, like vs. most other good teams this season, the game wasn't particularly close. Clippers fans could point to Leonard completely losing focus in the 4th where he shot something like 1 - 5 with many turnovers. Any game where the team is down 27 points late in the 3rd quarter isn't all that close to me. The Wolves made a nice run. But they still never got within 5 points (4?) right?

I'm 100% certain some of those possessions would have been played differently by the Clippers if the game was actually close and in jeopardy.
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