thedoper wrote:Is Gorgui our only player who can play offense and defense? We have a football team. And a bad one at that.
Gorgui and RoCo. But yeah, that's it.
Roco is very hit or miss on offense and one note. He can fit into an offense but i dont rely on him at all.
Anyone that can shoot contested 3's on the wing is a HIGHLY coveted player. Even if he's not shooting, he's creating space. If what you mean by offense are high usage scorers, then yeah, only a handful in the league are truly great scorers and defenders.
Its more than his inability to be high usage. He has a negative assist turnover ratio and cant dribble. Teams are getting better at defending the three especially when hes the only shooter on the floor. Hes league average from 3 this year too so basically hes been an average shooter who does nothing else for your offense.
He's got the 2nd best offensive rating on the team behind KAT. There is a reason for that. He's an "average" shooter because he rarely gets open shots. The point is he spaces the floor which is hugely valuable. Compare him to someone like Okogie or Graham or even Culver. He's miles more useful to a team on offense. Also he plays the 4....not sure it's his job to break teams down off the dribble. So yeah, he's a legit 2-way player in my mind. We'll agree to disagree on that one.
thedoper wrote:Is Gorgui our only player who can play offense and defense? We have a football team. And a bad one at that.
Gorgui and RoCo. But yeah, that's it.
Roco is very hit or miss on offense and one note. He can fit into an offense but i dont rely on him at all.
Anyone that can shoot contested 3's on the wing is a HIGHLY coveted player. Even if he's not shooting, he's creating space. If what you mean by offense are high usage scorers, then yeah, only a handful in the league are truly great scorers and defenders.
Its more than his inability to be high usage. He has a negative assist turnover ratio and cant dribble. Teams are getting better at defending the three especially when hes the only shooter on the floor. Hes league average from 3 this year too so basically hes been an average shooter who does nothing else for your offense.
He's got the 2nd best offensive rating on the team behind KAT. There is a reason for that. He's an "average" shooter because he rarely gets open shots. The point is he spaces the floor which is hugely valuable. Compare him to someone like Okogie or Graham or even Culver. He's miles more useful to a team on offense. Also he plays the 4....not sure it's his job to break teams down off the dribble. So yeah, he's a legit 2-way player in my mind. We'll agree to disagree on that one.
Yes he's better to an offense than Culver, Graham, and Okogie. Like 99% of the league. I think he's average, hits open shots and not much more. That is valuable, but as a 4th option. Him being 2nd best offensive rating only highlights how much this team sucks to me. I like Roco, but to me he seems like a good defender and a 4th option on offense. I dont think thats too far off his value.
Q12543 wrote:Sabonis putting on a clinic on how to set screens. Such an unsexy skill, but used to great effect. Basically gets guys wide open 15-footers at will.
Yeah the fundamentals are what we lack. Screening, passing, shooting, dribbling, hustling on D. Other than that we're great.
It is. In the Wolves defense, Indiana is a really good team. Great example of a team that has been able to stay relevant with meat and potatoes coaching, signings, and drafting. And they are missing their best player!!
It's possible to build a good team without the high-usage superstar. They kind of remind me of Memphis back in the day. Not going to win a title with Gasol-Randolph-Conley, but you are going to win a lot of games for your fans and compete hard.
