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Re: OT - The USA Today
Posted: Thu Jan 07, 2021 10:01 pm
by Hicks123 [enjin:6700838]
Wow, I thought at some point Cool was going to give the board a surprise.....gotcha!
That is some tinfoil hat stuff right there. I am with Kahns and others. Regardless of what side of the fence you fall, do we not work off facts or any sort of proof anymore? It's just so strange.
I will fall for bait a bit and state that it is likely IMO that every election since the beginning of time has been "handled" to some level. The whole system is broken, starting from who can become a candidate. The fact that this election cost Trump and Biden $1.3 BILLION shows the very problem with our system. No one, but a few elite, can even have a shot at office. The odds simply state these elite few will likely NEVER be even close to the best candidate for the people.
I digress. These are some crazy times we live in.
Re: OT - The USA Today
Posted: Thu Jan 07, 2021 10:53 pm
by thedoper
The worst part about all of this was that moron in the senate was wearing Viking horns. Which means he's one of us. Go Minnesota sports!!!!
Re: OT - The USA Today
Posted: Fri Jan 08, 2021 3:09 am
by D-Mac [enjin:19736340]
CoolBreeze44 wrote:We have a lot of fun on this forum debating all things Timberwolves basketball. I've made thousands of posts agreeing - disagreeing - informing - and editorializing. I wish the world we live in could more closely mimic the light hearted time we have on this board. But this post will be the most important I've ever written in this space, and I hope you will take the time to read it.
I will gladly clarify anything written here, but from my standpoint this will not be a back and forth debate. I just feel it's important at this time I take a stand, and hopefully this will get some of you to think more critically about the monumental political events taking place in our new country.
United States of America - 1776-2021 RIP
We had a good run, 225 years is a long time and the duration is similar in time to other great nations/empires over the course of history. Our rise and fall as a great nation has followed a familiar arc of powerful regimes of the past. It's amazing to realize this is happening in our lifetimes, but I guess it really shouldn't be too surprising. Eventually even great nations become corrupt and end up swallowing themselves under it.
So why is it over? Over the last 5 years I've spent a ton of time reading, watching, and researching the events which have unfolded. I consider myself informed but certainly not an expert. Eventually a lot of books will be written on what really happened to our republic, and I look forward to gaining as much education as possible. I'm a conservative but not a far right activist or conspiracy theorist.
I was watching the US vs Canada in the World Junior hockey tournament the other night as most of you were watching the Wolves game live. At the same time I was following the results of the Georgia Senate runoff elections. As the outcomes of each event came into focus I was struck by a sobering thought. I believe I was witnessing the last time the USA would compete athletically as a truly free nation. The magnitude of that thought has consumed me for the past 36 hours.
It's extremely obvious to me the presidential election on 11/3 was stolen. And I believe the same thing happened Tuesday night in Georgia. Forces both foreign and domestic conspired to pull this off. And though you are seeing the end result currently, this has been a long term process and evolution over several decades.
I invite you to look up the soviet communistic goal document of 1963. When you read through the goals and objectives you should be amazed at how many have actually been realized today. Not by the soviets of course, but by communist China. The ones that really stick out to me:
1) Capture one or both of the political parties in the United States. (Check)
2) Use technical decisions of the courts to weaken basic American institutions by claiming their
activities violate civil rights. (Check)
3) Get control of the schools and bring propaganda to the curriculums. (Check)
4) Infiltrate the press. (Big time Check)
5) Gain control of key positions in radio, TV, and motion pictures. (Check)
6) Infiltrate the churches and replace revealed religion with "social" religion. Discredit the Bible and
emphasize the need for intellectual maturity which does not need a "religious crutch." (Happening)
7). Eliminate prayer or any phase of religious expression in the schools on the ground that it violates the principle of separation of church and state. (Check)
8) Discredit the American Founding Fathers. Present them as selfish aristocrats who had no concern
for the "common man." (Happening)
9) Support any socialist movement. (Check)
10) Infiltrate and gain control of big business. (Check)
11) Discredit the family as an institution. Encourage promiscuity and easy divorce. (Happening)
This represents about 25% of the paper, and again I encourage you to look it up if interested.
At the core of my beliefs is once you don't have free and fair elections, you really don't have a democracy. The republic is gone. With the compromised democrats now in charge, they and there communist influencers have free reign to shape the new America. The borders will be opened. The Supreme Court will become another branch of the democratic government and will hold 16 - 25 members. Government control and taxes will rise significantly. Tens of millions of babies will continue to be killed every year, some right up until birth. Elections may become a thing of the past, or they will be so wired no one will bother to vote. Minorities will get more financial breaks and incentives ( a good thing if you fall into that category). More recreational drugs will be legalized. The likelihood of civil war increases. Their will be no more free press, you can already see the censorship and filtering from big Tech, and of course the folly of the mainstream media. We are no longer going to know what is truly going on, just like our fellow humans in all those communist and dictator led countries.
Does the above sound like the same country you have grown up with and hopefully love? Like I said earlier very sobering indeed.
I'm with you 100%. I wrote a much longer comment, but really what's the point? Just figured I'd say yeah, I see everything exactly the same way. I think one day more people will look back and realize what just happened. And yes, this has been in the works for decades. Our country was the last sovereign domino to fall on the way to globalism.
Re: OT - The USA Today
Posted: Fri Jan 08, 2021 5:21 am
by ItsJustSoSab
I blame Glen
Re: OT - The USA Today
Posted: Fri Jan 08, 2021 8:02 am
by Wolvesfan21
Hicks123 wrote:Wow, I thought at some point Cool was going to give the board a surprise.....gotcha!
That is some tinfoil hat stuff right there. I am with Kahns and others. Regardless of what side of the fence you fall, do we not work off facts or any sort of proof anymore? It's just so strange.
I will fall for bait a bit and state that it is likely IMO that every election since the beginning of time has been "handled" to some level. The whole system is broken, starting from who can become a candidate. The fact that this election cost Trump and Biden $1.3 BILLION shows the very problem with our system. No one, but a few elite, can even have a shot at office. The odds simply state these elite few will likely NEVER be even close to the best candidate for the people.
I digress. These are some crazy times we live in.
"Presidents are selected, not elected." -FDR
"If voting mattered... they wouldn't let us do it." -Mark Twain
As long as the biggest money controls both parties the slaves (citizens) will certainly not be getting free anytime soon. I've seen no proof to trust that any election is or has been legitimate and votes are counted. The media is completely fictional and a sellout. So you can't trust them either.
Re: OT - The USA Today
Posted: Fri Jan 08, 2021 5:33 pm
by TheFuture
CoolBreeze44 wrote:We have a lot of fun on this forum debating all things Timberwolves basketball. I've made thousands of posts agreeing - disagreeing - informing - and editorializing. I wish the world we live in could more closely mimic the light hearted time we have on this board. But this post will be the most important I've ever written in this space, and I hope you will take the time to read it.
I will gladly clarify anything written here, but from my standpoint this will not be a back and forth debate. I just feel it's important at this time I take a stand, and hopefully this will get some of you to think more critically about the monumental political events taking place in our new country.
United States of America - 1776-2021 RIP
We had a good run, 225 years is a long time and the duration is similar in time to other great nations/empires over the course of history. Our rise and fall as a great nation has followed a familiar arc of powerful regimes of the past. It's amazing to realize this is happening in our lifetimes, but I guess it really shouldn't be too surprising. Eventually even great nations become corrupt and end up swallowing themselves under it.
So why is it over? Over the last 5 years I've spent a ton of time reading, watching, and researching the events which have unfolded. I consider myself informed but certainly not an expert. Eventually a lot of books will be written on what really happened to our republic, and I look forward to gaining as much education as possible. I'm a conservative but not a far right activist or conspiracy theorist.
I was watching the US vs Canada in the World Junior hockey tournament the other night as most of you were watching the Wolves game live. At the same time I was following the results of the Georgia Senate runoff elections. As the outcomes of each event came into focus I was struck by a sobering thought. I believe I was witnessing the last time the USA would compete athletically as a truly free nation. The magnitude of that thought has consumed me for the past 36 hours.
It's extremely obvious to me the presidential election on 11/3 was stolen. And I believe the same thing happened Tuesday night in Georgia. Forces both foreign and domestic conspired to pull this off. And though you are seeing the end result currently, this has been a long term process and evolution over several decades.
I invite you to look up the soviet communistic goal document of 1963. When you read through the goals and objectives you should be amazed at how many have actually been realized today. Not by the soviets of course, but by communist China. The ones that really stick out to me:
1) Capture one or both of the political parties in the United States. (Check)
2) Use technical decisions of the courts to weaken basic American institutions by claiming their
activities violate civil rights. (Check)
3) Get control of the schools and bring propaganda to the curriculums. (Check)
4) Infiltrate the press. (Big time Check)
5) Gain control of key positions in radio, TV, and motion pictures. (Check)
6) Infiltrate the churches and replace revealed religion with "social" religion. Discredit the Bible and
emphasize the need for intellectual maturity which does not need a "religious crutch." (Happening)
7). Eliminate prayer or any phase of religious expression in the schools on the ground that it violates the principle of separation of church and state. (Check)
8) Discredit the American Founding Fathers. Present them as selfish aristocrats who had no concern
for the "common man." (Happening)
9) Support any socialist movement. (Check)
10) Infiltrate and gain control of big business. (Check)
11) Discredit the family as an institution. Encourage promiscuity and easy divorce. (Happening)
This represents about 25% of the paper, and again I encourage you to look it up if interested.
At the core of my beliefs is once you don't have free and fair elections, you really don't have a democracy. The republic is gone. With the compromised democrats now in charge, they and there communist influencers have free reign to shape the new America. The borders will be opened. The Supreme Court will become another branch of the democratic government and will hold 16 - 25 members. Government control and taxes will rise significantly. Tens of millions of babies will continue to be killed every year, some right up until birth. Elections may become a thing of the past, or they will be so wired no one will bother to vote. Minorities will get more financial breaks and incentives ( a good thing if you fall into that category). More recreational drugs will be legalized. The likelihood of civil war increases. Their will be no more free press, you can already see the censorship and filtering from big Tech, and of course the folly of the mainstream media. We are no longer going to know what is truly going on, just like our fellow humans in all those communist and dictator led countries.
Does the above sound like the same country you have grown up with and hopefully love? Like I said earlier very sobering indeed.
I agree with everything you stated. I am upset about the trajectory we are on, and more upset about those who are destroying our history, those who choose not to see it or are defying the reality of it happening. I guess it is inevitable.
"A democracy cannot exist as a permanent form of government. It can only exist until the voters discover that they can vote themselves largesse from the public treasury. From that moment on, the majority always votes for the candidates promising the most benefits from the public treasury with the result that a democracy always collapses over loose fiscal policy, always followed by a dictatorship."
Alexander Fraser Tytler
https://youtu.be/IQPsKvG6WMI
Please watch that video.
Re: OT - The USA Today
Posted: Fri Jan 08, 2021 6:03 pm
by DNatagal
So much for having one board to read without the political side coming in. Sad day. Too bad the OP couldn't keep his tinfoil hat secured tighter and posted in Parler.
Re: OT - The USA Today
Posted: Fri Jan 08, 2021 6:28 pm
by Coolbreeze44
D'Natagal wrote:So much for having one board to read without the political side coming in. Sad day. Too bad the OP couldn't keep his tinfoil hat secured tighter and posted in Parler.
This is way too important to worry about what is being posted on a message board. If you're a believer, thank God people are willing to discuss this anywhere. This isn't some sacred place - give me a break. The censorship going on today should scare the hell out of anyone regardless of your own ideology. No free elections, no free speech. You have to be able to see past the end of your nose.
Re: OT - The USA Today
Posted: Fri Jan 08, 2021 7:22 pm
by D-Mac [enjin:19736340]
D'Natagal wrote:So much for having one board to read without the political side coming in. Sad day. Too bad the OP couldn't keep his tinfoil hat secured tighter and posted in Parler.
Tinfoil hat? Seriously... Just wow. We aren't talking about aliens here, we're talking about understanding what has happened to governments throughout history and recognizing the same trends in our current society. The OP is just trying to inform"friends" on here about something he thinks is important enough to voice. We're heading toward socialism really fast now, and if that's what you want, then great, but I think most people don't really understand what that means. It's really sad that those who ignore history are doomed to repeat it.
Re: OT - The USA Today
Posted: Fri Jan 08, 2021 7:30 pm
by TheFuture
D-Loser wrote:D'Natagal wrote:So much for having one board to read without the political side coming in. Sad day. Too bad the OP couldn't keep his tinfoil hat secured tighter and posted in Parler.
Tinfoil hat? Seriously... Just wow. We aren't talking about aliens here, we're talking about understanding what has happened to governments throughout history and recognizing the same trends in our current society. The OP is just trying to inform"friends" on here about something he thinks is important enough to voice. We're heading toward socialism really fast now, and if that's what you want, then great, but I think most people don't really understand what that means. It's really sad that those who ignore history are doomed to repeat it.
It is honestly terrifying.
Please watch the video and read the quote.