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Re: Layden/Thibs Media Availability

Posted: Wed Jun 21, 2017 9:38 pm
by Monster
longstrangetrip wrote:I don't know why you guys accuse Thibs of playing it close to the vest. If you listen closely, I think he told us exactly what he is going to do tomorrow night. I pretty clearly heard him say he was either going to keep the pick, trade it for a vet, trade down, or trade up. I will guarantee he will do one of these 4 things Thursday. Why he would let the cat out of the bag before the draft is beyond me though.


lol good one LST.

Re: Layden/Thibs Media Availability

Posted: Wed Jun 21, 2017 9:39 pm
by Monster
Q12543 wrote:
lipoli390 wrote:
Q12543 wrote:I listened to it.....a few takeaways. I'm sure Tim will add on to whatever I missed:

- They said all the right things about the draft: Take the best player available, very deep draft through the late 1st round, open for any and all possibilities if it makes the team better (i.e. trading down, trading for a vet), yada, yada, yada. Although Layden did imply that it is difficult to find a deal that works and ultimately teams mostly just keep the guy they picked.

- Thibs repeated his oft-repeated mantra of the team's three biggest needs: 3-point shooting, defense, and toughness.

- Thibs sung Kris Dunn's praises once again - said you draft a guy for what he can do 2, 3, or 4 years into his career, not his first. He said he's been in every day this summer to work on his game. If ever there was a "Thibs guy", Kris Dunn is it. The love affair hasn't ended yet.

- Thibs also said Bjelly was a really important part of the team. He felt he was playing really good ball in the 4-5 weeks leading up to his injury. This is interesting...I wonder if his love of Bjelly perhaps means he is less likely to spend big money on a Jar Green or Milsap. Or may be he loves Bjelly in the role he had - a backup PF that has some little man skills, but plays pretty big on the glass. Anyway....Bjelly isn't going anywhere either.

- Tim posted this elsewhere, but Markkanen's name came up and Thibs did acknowledge his shooting and that being a big team need.

- He alluded to the team being able to be flexible in fitting in different types of players, saying that KAT can play the 4 or 5 and Wiggins can play the 2, 3, or 4 (I do not think he can play the 4....). What I guess that means is we can think of anyone from a DeAndre Jordan being an option and then KAT starts at the 4 to Paul Milsap or Jar Green being an option and then KAT starts at the 5. It doesn't seem like Thibs is too caught up in positional dogmas when it comes to free agents/trades/drafting. If they are a good player, he will figure out a way to fit them in.

And that's all I got.


Q - Did you think Thibs' comments, especially his acknowledgment of Markkenan's shooting, suggested an inclination to draft him?



I don't think so Lip. I would be really surprised if we drafted Markkenan.


I don't think it meant anything either. If the reports are right and they like Zach Collins they may think he could stretch the floor and...he might not make the biggest impact right away.

Re: Layden/Thibs Media Availability

Posted: Wed Jun 21, 2017 9:42 pm
by Monster
The biggest take away from this PC is Thibs seems like he isn't going to go out and get these 30 something year olds that people think he will or is reported he will. Will they add a vet or 2? Yeah and they may be 30 of over but I get zero sense he is gonna grossly overpay for some guy that won't be a piece of this roster 3 years from now or whatever. He said the young players on this roster improving is the most important thing.

Along those lines he seems perfectly willing to take a prospect that won't be a guy that makes an impact right away. That's good news. That the guy you think will be the best player.

Re: Layden/Thibs Media Availability

Posted: Wed Jun 21, 2017 9:43 pm
by Q12543 [enjin:6621299]
monsterpile wrote:
foye2smith wrote:
Q12543 wrote:I listened to it.....a few takeaways. I'm sure Tim will add on to whatever I missed:

- They said all the right things about the draft: Take the best player available, very deep draft through the late 1st round, open for any and all possibilities if it makes the team better (i.e. trading down, trading for a vet), yada, yada, yada. Although Layden did imply that it is difficult to find a deal that works and ultimately teams mostly just keep the guy they picked.

- Thibs repeated his oft-repeated mantra of the team's three biggest needs: 3-point shooting, defense, and toughness.

- Thibs sung Kris Dunn's praises once again - said you draft a guy for what he can do 2, 3, or 4 years into his career, not his first. He said he's been in every day this summer to work on his game. If ever there was a "Thibs guy", Kris Dunn is it. The love affair hasn't ended yet.

- Thibs also said Bjelly was a really important part of the team. He felt he was playing really good ball in the 4-5 weeks leading up to his injury. This is interesting...I wonder if his love of Bjelly perhaps means he is less likely to spend big money on a Jar Green or Milsap. Or may be he loves Bjelly in the role he had - a backup PF that has some little man skills, but plays pretty big on the glass. Anyway....Bjelly isn't going anywhere either.

- Tim posted this elsewhere, but Markkanen's name came up and Thibs did acknowledge his shooting and that being a big team need.

- He alluded to the team being able to be flexible in fitting in different types of players, saying that KAT can play the 4 or 5 and Wiggins can play the 2, 3, or 4 (I do not think he can play the 4....). What I guess that means is we can think of anyone from a DeAndre Jordan being an option and then KAT starts at the 4 to Paul Milsap or Jar Green being an option and then KAT starts at the 5. It doesn't seem like Thibs is too caught up in positional dogmas when it comes to free agents/trades/drafting. If they are a good player, he will figure out a way to fit them in.

And that's all I got.


Maybe in minimal minutes like Harrison Barnes in his GSW days. It's probably less dependent on Wiggins ability at the 4 and more KAT's ability to cover Wiggins' inability at the 4 if that makes any sense.


Thibs said Wiggins can play 3 positions he didn't say which 3 positions.



May be he meant he could guard 3 positions? I have seen him pick up PGs, but he really didn't look very good. He has problems getting caught up in high ball screens. IDK, I just assumed he meant SG and the two forward positions.

Re: Layden/Thibs Media Availability

Posted: Wed Jun 21, 2017 9:48 pm
by Monster
Q12543 wrote:
monsterpile wrote:
foye2smith wrote:
Q12543 wrote:I listened to it.....a few takeaways. I'm sure Tim will add on to whatever I missed:

- They said all the right things about the draft: Take the best player available, very deep draft through the late 1st round, open for any and all possibilities if it makes the team better (i.e. trading down, trading for a vet), yada, yada, yada. Although Layden did imply that it is difficult to find a deal that works and ultimately teams mostly just keep the guy they picked.

- Thibs repeated his oft-repeated mantra of the team's three biggest needs: 3-point shooting, defense, and toughness.

- Thibs sung Kris Dunn's praises once again - said you draft a guy for what he can do 2, 3, or 4 years into his career, not his first. He said he's been in every day this summer to work on his game. If ever there was a "Thibs guy", Kris Dunn is it. The love affair hasn't ended yet.

- Thibs also said Bjelly was a really important part of the team. He felt he was playing really good ball in the 4-5 weeks leading up to his injury. This is interesting...I wonder if his love of Bjelly perhaps means he is less likely to spend big money on a Jar Green or Milsap. Or may be he loves Bjelly in the role he had - a backup PF that has some little man skills, but plays pretty big on the glass. Anyway....Bjelly isn't going anywhere either.

- Tim posted this elsewhere, but Markkanen's name came up and Thibs did acknowledge his shooting and that being a big team need.

- He alluded to the team being able to be flexible in fitting in different types of players, saying that KAT can play the 4 or 5 and Wiggins can play the 2, 3, or 4 (I do not think he can play the 4....). What I guess that means is we can think of anyone from a DeAndre Jordan being an option and then KAT starts at the 4 to Paul Milsap or Jar Green being an option and then KAT starts at the 5. It doesn't seem like Thibs is too caught up in positional dogmas when it comes to free agents/trades/drafting. If they are a good player, he will figure out a way to fit them in.

And that's all I got.


Maybe in minimal minutes like Harrison Barnes in his GSW days. It's probably less dependent on Wiggins ability at the 4 and more KAT's ability to cover Wiggins' inability at the 4 if that makes any sense.


Thibs said Wiggins can play 3 positions he didn't say which 3 positions.



May be he meant he could guard 3 positions? I have seen him pick up PGs, but he really didn't look very good. He has problems getting caught up in high ball screens. IDK, I just assumed he meant SG and the two forward positions.


Thibs could have also been thinking a couple years down the road when Wiggins is stronger. I personally figured he was talking SG C and assistant coach. :)

Re: Layden/Thibs Media Availability

Posted: Wed Jun 21, 2017 10:18 pm
by TAFKASP
longstrangetrip wrote:I don't know why you guys accuse Thibs of playing it close to the vest. If you listen closely, I think he told us exactly what he is going to do tomorrow night. I pretty clearly heard him say he was either going to keep the pick, trade it for a vet, trade down, or trade up. I will guarantee he will do one of these 4 things Thursday. Why he would let the cat out of the bag before the draft is beyond me though.


You missed one option, they could take a trick from the Vikings bag and just not pick at 7, waiting until they feel the value of the player they want is equal to the position they pick him in.