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spoofrice11 wrote:I'd like the team to get a shooter.
Both K Huerter and D Divincenzo fit there and have some upside.


I just watched a couple videos of Huerter and came away kinda hoping he falls to us. He is thin but has nice size and plenty of offensive game. Looks like he has plenty of range and will let it fly which sounds very good to me.
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monsterpile wrote:
spoofrice11 wrote:I'd like the team to get a shooter.
Both K Huerter and D Divincenzo fit there and have some upside.


I just watched a couple videos of Huerter and came away kinda hoping he falls to us. He is thin but has nice size and plenty of offensive game. Looks like he has plenty of range and will let it fly which sounds very good to me.


I haven't watching any Huerter video yet. ESPN projects the Wolves taking him. He's having hand surgery. As a result, he'll miss Summer League and may not be ready for the opening of training camp. If it's a close call between Huerter and another prospect like Okogie, Thomas or someone else, I'd pass on Huerter. I hate to have any injury issues that will delay the player's development and possibly reoccur even if that risk is minimal. After the Patton misfortune, I don't like Huerter's broken hand situation. Moreover, I don't like Heurter's length. He has a decent 6'7.5" wingspan. I'd much prefer Okogie's 7'0 span, Milton's 7'1" span or K. Thomas's 6'10.5 span. The margin of extending college success to the NBA is so thin, a player needs every possible edge in making that transition. I like Heurter's colllege stats and athleticism. But wingspan is so important to a wing's success in the NBA on the defensive end.

My first pick would be Jerome Robinson, but it's becoming clear he won't be available at #20. So I'm still leaning towards Okogie followed by K. Thomas and Melvin Frazier. All three of those guys will likely be available at #20. All three have terrific length, excellent athleticism (although Thomas comes up a bit short there), and very good perimeter shooting stats. Okogie was also terrific on the boards, a good ball thief and excellent at drawing fouls while also hitting his free throws at a high clip (6.8 attempts/82%)
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My thoughts on DiVincenzo? I love his tenacity and energy. He has really impressive athletic testing results at the combine. And he put on a great performance in the tournament. But I have a hard time getting beyond his short arms -- an 8'1.5 overhead reach and 6'6.5 wingspan. It would be one thing if he were a PG. But he's a SG and doesn't have the handle or playmaking instincts to play PG in the NBA. I think picking him would be a mistake.
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lipoli390 wrote:My thoughts on DiVincenzo? I love his tenacity and energy. He has really impressive athletic testing results at the combine. And he put on a great performance in the tournament. But I have a hard time getting beyond his short arms -- an 8'1.5 overhead reach and 6'6.5 wingspan. It would be one thing if he were a PG. But he's a SG and doesn't have the handle or playmaking instincts to play PG in the NBA. I think picking him would be a mistake.

What about a short-armed PF or C??? ;-)
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lipoli390 wrote:
monsterpile wrote:
spoofrice11 wrote:I'd like the team to get a shooter.
Both K Huerter and D Divincenzo fit there and have some upside.


I just watched a couple videos of Huerter and came away kinda hoping he falls to us. He is thin but has nice size and plenty of offensive game. Looks like he has plenty of range and will let it fly which sounds very good to me.


I haven't watching any Huerter video yet. ESPN projects the Wolves taking him. He's having hand surgery. As a result, he'll miss Summer League and may not be ready for the opening of training camp. If it's a close call between Huerter and another prospect like Okogie, Thomas or someone else, I'd pass on Huerter. I hate to have any injury issues that will delay the player's development and possibly reoccur even if that risk is minimal. After the Patton misfortune, I don't like Huerter's broken hand situation. Moreover, I don't like Heurter's length. He has a decent 6'7.5" wingspan. I'd much prefer Okogie's 7'0 span, Milton's 7'1" span or K. Thomas's 6'10.5 span. The margin of extending college success to the NBA is so thin, a player needs every possible edge in making that transition. I like Heurter's colllege stats and athleticism. But wingspan is so important to a wing's success in the NBA on the defensive end.

My first pick would be Jerome Robinson, but it's becoming clear he won't be available at #20. So I'm still leaning towards Okogie followed by K. Thomas and Melvin Frazier. All three of those guys will likely be available at #20. All three have terrific length, excellent athleticism (although Thomas comes up a bit short there), and very good perimeter shooting stats. Okogie was also terrific on the boards, a good ball thief and excellent at drawing fouls while also hitting his free throws at a high clip (6.8 attempts/82%)


Lip Huerter has at least 3 inches of height over both A couple of those guys. To me that makes his wingspan less worrisome in comparison. He really looks a lot more polished than you would expect when you watch videos. I'm not saying we gotta get him but there is some nice stuff there from him.
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monsterpile wrote:
lipoli390 wrote:
monsterpile wrote:
spoofrice11 wrote:I'd like the team to get a shooter.
Both K Huerter and D Divincenzo fit there and have some upside.


I just watched a couple videos of Huerter and came away kinda hoping he falls to us. He is thin but has nice size and plenty of offensive game. Looks like he has plenty of range and will let it fly which sounds very good to me.


I haven't watching any Huerter video yet. ESPN projects the Wolves taking him. He's having hand surgery. As a result, he'll miss Summer League and may not be ready for the opening of training camp. If it's a close call between Huerter and another prospect like Okogie, Thomas or someone else, I'd pass on Huerter. I hate to have any injury issues that will delay the player's development and possibly reoccur even if that risk is minimal. After the Patton misfortune, I don't like Huerter's broken hand situation. Moreover, I don't like Heurter's length. He has a decent 6'7.5" wingspan. I'd much prefer Okogie's 7'0 span, Milton's 7'1" span or K. Thomas's 6'10.5 span. The margin of extending college success to the NBA is so thin, a player needs every possible edge in making that transition. I like Heurter's colllege stats and athleticism. But wingspan is so important to a wing's success in the NBA on the defensive end.

My first pick would be Jerome Robinson, but it's becoming clear he won't be available at #20. So I'm still leaning towards Okogie followed by K. Thomas and Melvin Frazier. All three of those guys will likely be available at #20. All three have terrific length, excellent athleticism (although Thomas comes up a bit short there), and very good perimeter shooting stats. Okogie was also terrific on the boards, a good ball thief and excellent at drawing fouls while also hitting his free throws at a high clip (6.8 attempts/82%)


Lip Huerter has at least 3 inches of height over both A couple of those guys. To me that makes his wingspan less worrisome in comparison. He really looks a lot more polished than you would expect when you watch videos. I'm not saying we gotta get him but there is some nice stuff there from him.


As I've said many times, height is meaningless unless your a C or PF whose game is built around passing out of the post. As Kevin McHale once told a group of us at a season ticket holder gather, "you don't shoot, steal, block shots or rebound with your head; it's about your length, not your height."
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monsterpile wrote:Jon K reports that K Thomas did not disclose his medical and chose not to work out for the Wolves. Why? He didn't know but apparently he didn't want to go there. It makes some sense I mean right now the Wolves have 2 wings in Butler and Wiggins that are gonna play a lot of minutes maybe he is hoping to go to a team that has a more obvious need as a starter. That doesn't mean the Wolves can't select him if they want to. I'm sure they know his game plenty well since they drafted his teammate a year ago. It seems like he has moved down a ways to last few weeks. I don't know if it's because he is moving down or other guys have been doing things to move up.


Yeah, Thomas must have looked at the Wolves' wing situation and realized that not only are Wiggins and Butler almost certain to be fixtures at the 2 and 3 for years to come, but also the Wolves' excellent depth at the wings might make it tough to find minutes :).

Or could there be any other possible reason he didn't want to play for the Wolves?
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lipoli390 wrote:
monsterpile wrote:
lipoli390 wrote:
monsterpile wrote:
spoofrice11 wrote:I'd like the team to get a shooter.
Both K Huerter and D Divincenzo fit there and have some upside.


I just watched a couple videos of Huerter and came away kinda hoping he falls to us. He is thin but has nice size and plenty of offensive game. Looks like he has plenty of range and will let it fly which sounds very good to me.


I haven't watching any Huerter video yet. ESPN projects the Wolves taking him. He's having hand surgery. As a result, he'll miss Summer League and may not be ready for the opening of training camp. If it's a close call between Huerter and another prospect like Okogie, Thomas or someone else, I'd pass on Huerter. I hate to have any injury issues that will delay the player's development and possibly reoccur even if that risk is minimal. After the Patton misfortune, I don't like Huerter's broken hand situation. Moreover, I don't like Heurter's length. He has a decent 6'7.5" wingspan. I'd much prefer Okogie's 7'0 span, Milton's 7'1" span or K. Thomas's 6'10.5 span. The margin of extending college success to the NBA is so thin, a player needs every possible edge in making that transition. I like Heurter's colllege stats and athleticism. But wingspan is so important to a wing's success in the NBA on the defensive end.

My first pick would be Jerome Robinson, but it's becoming clear he won't be available at #20. So I'm still leaning towards Okogie followed by K. Thomas and Melvin Frazier. All three of those guys will likely be available at #20. All three have terrific length, excellent athleticism (although Thomas comes up a bit short there), and very good perimeter shooting stats. Okogie was also terrific on the boards, a good ball thief and excellent at drawing fouls while also hitting his free throws at a high clip (6.8 attempts/82%)


Lip Huerter has at least 3 inches of height over both A couple of those guys. To me that makes his wingspan less worrisome in comparison. He really looks a lot more polished than you would expect when you watch videos. I'm not saying we gotta get him but there is some nice stuff there from him.


As I've said many times, height is meaningless unless your a C or PF whose game is built around passing out of the post. As Kevin McHale once told a group of us at a season ticket holder gather, "you don't shoot, steal, block shots or rebound with your head; it's about your length, not your height."


Yes the standing reach is basically the same for Thomas and Okogie as Huerter. The concern I have with Okogie is that his 3 point shot isn't very quick it's more of a set shot right now and watching a bit of video that does kinda look like it might be true. As you know I like all the guys you mentioned in just bringing up Huerter and sticking up for his physical profile somewhat.

Edit: ultimately Huerter is just another guy that might be available at #20 I think most of us would be plenty pleased to add to our squad.
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Interesting possible trade Luka going to Dallas. I hope that happens Dallas seems to be a good player to go to Dallas. Interesting if Atlanta picks Young then they would have too many PGs...
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Luca under Dirk's wing for a year is scary. I think he's a little overhyped because he just doesn't have top level athleticism at a position with elite athletes everywhere, but he will be solid. Curious why Atlanta wanted Trey so much with Schroeder.
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