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CoolBreeze44 wrote:All his former coach did was argue every call, all game, all season. KAT learned from one of the best at it. Might take a while to get this out of his game.

crazy-canuck wrote:1. Kat got a raw deal from the refs, but I think the constant whining and begging for calls probably had something to do with it. I simply think he doesnt get calls because he isn't liked. As much as we hope that the refs would be impartial, they are human.

2. Saric did some good things out there, but he doesnt take shots in rhythm. I don't think he knows when and where his shots are coming from. Coming from a ball moving offense and a pass first pg, this has to be a tough transition. Our unnel vision pgs + our offensive schemes just dont work for anyone else.

2. Wiggs simply isnt involved in the offense for long stretches. You can blame wiggs for not doing more, but unless hes the pg heds going to need some help. Wiggs role is to spread the offense for teague, rose, kat, and even taj. With cov out, we dont have a floor spacer. Okogie isnt being guarded while saric cant hit the broadside of the barn right now.

4. Dieng. He was brutal. I don't even think you could call that play a missed box out, because he never attempted one because he was too busy whining to the refs. Then he compounded the issue by taking b2b long 2's and silly fouls. He erased a 10 pt lead by himself.

5. Teague is our best pg, but after 2 years, he still can't click with anyone on the floor.

longstrangetrip wrote:My thoughts about Wig last night. I got to my seats late (had to go way TF up to section 205 to get a Crunch birthday beanie for my Little Brother), and Wig already had seven points that I missed when we finally got to our seats. But except for two nice three-pointers and the tragic turnover Lip mentions, , I honestly don't remember even seeing Wig on offense the rest of the game. I don't know if that's an indictment of Ryan, our PGs or Wig himself...probably a combo platter...but it's a huge continuing problem... we simply have to find a way to get him more involved in the offense.

That said, I do know he was in the game, because I saw a lot of good defense from him. Several times during the game I said "nice D, Wig" or "great footwork", and I noticed others praising his defense too. I thought he "brought it" on the boards and defensive side last night.

longstrangetrip wrote:My thoughts about Wig last night. I got to my seats late (had to go way TF up to section 205 to get a Crunch birthday beanie for my Little Brother), and Wig already had seven points that I missed when we finally got to our seats. But except for two nice three-pointers and the tragic turnover Lip mentions, , I honestly don't remember even seeing Wig on offense the rest of the game. I don't know if that's an indictment of Ryan, our PGs or Wig himself...probably a combo platter...but it's a huge continuing problem... we simply have to find a way to get him more involved in the offense.

That said, I do know he was in the game, because I saw a lot of good defense from him. Several times during the game I said "nice D, Wig" or "great footwork", and I noticed others praising his defense too. I thought he "brought it" on the boards and defensive side last night.

monsterpile wrote:

crazy-canuck wrote:1. Kat got a raw deal from the refs, but I think the constant whining and begging for calls probably had something to do with it. I simply think he doesnt get calls because he isn't liked. As much as we hope that the refs would be impartial, they are human.

2. Saric did some good things out there, but he doesnt take shots in rhythm. I don't think he knows when and where his shots are coming from. Coming from a ball moving offense and a pass first pg, this has to be a tough transition. Our unnel vision pgs + our offensive schemes just dont work for anyone else.

2. Wiggs simply isnt involved in the offense for long stretches. You can blame wiggs for not doing more, but unless hes the pg heds going to need some help. Wiggs role is to spread the offense for teague, rose, kat, and even taj. With cov out, we dont have a floor spacer. Okogie isnt being guarded while saric cant hit the broadside of the barn right now.

4. Dieng. He was brutal. I don't even think you could call that play a missed box out, because he never attempted one because he was too busy whining to the refs. Then he compounded the issue by taking b2b long 2's and silly fouls. He erased a 10 pt lead by himself.

5. Teague is our best pg, but after 2 years, he still can't click with anyone on the floor.

You said Dieng erased a 10 point lead by himself. You know how they got the lead? Towns got a foul Dieng came in and the team went on a run WITH Dieng playing well. Doris Burke mentioned a few times him playing good D on LA and he did a corner 3. Then he started fouling like crazy (seemed to be going around) and had that boneheaded play...which was a point where the bad stuff from him continued to snowball. It was an absolutely maddening performance.

crazy-canuck wrote:Just read that we are 2-10 in the last 12 games that rose has played and 7-2 in the last 9 games he has sat.