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Re: Coaching shortlist
Posted: Sat Oct 13, 2018 1:25 pm
by Lipoli390
monsterpile wrote:crazy-canuck wrote:lipoli390 wrote:crazy-canuck wrote:lipoli390 wrote:At this point, Glen should focus on replacing Thibodeau on an interim basis.
Then we are basically looking at saunders, pinckney, greer, or even sam mitchell (not coaching, but knows the players and organization).
Correct. I'd add McHale to that list. My pick would be Greer. I don't think Sam would do it and I wouldn't blame him for telling Glen to take a hike if asked.
Greer couldn't cut it in Toronto.
Im going with pinckney.
"Fizdale comment: "Ed has played in numerous different roles and is able to communicate with guys in different positions throughout the roster. He has also been taught and worked with some of the best franchises and coaches in the NBA. On top of that, he is a great communicator and a guy that guys would enjoy playing for."
For whenever we make this move we are just looking for a guy that doesn't suck won't be a jerk and guys will at least have some fun playing for. Greer supposedly runs the defense so that doesn't exactly inspire confidence but he seems to have a more enjoyable presence and might be more open to doing a variety of things across the board. Ed P. Sounds fine with me for guy just to get us through.
If for some reason Ryan Saunders has communicated or communicated to Glen he has no interest in taking this over then Malik Allen would be an interesting younger guy but you can't hire him or John Lucas III unless Ryan doesn't want it because that just wouldn't be right.
I still think bringing McHale back is problematic. I wouldn't hate it but...and I would think he would turn it down. What's Sid Lowe up too? Randy Wittmann? Sorry Rambis isn't available he is a special advisor to the Lakers now. I'm joking about these other guys McHale wouldn't be a joke at least.
Monster - I agree with your take on the type we should consider for interim head coach. And you make a good point about Greer. Reading your post and Crazy's, I'd probably lean heavily towards Ed P, although I'd definitely consider Ryan Saunders. Given the state of this team right now, I think Ed would be the best choice. Like you, I don't think McHale would take it. If he would, I'd still go with him over any of the other choices for interim head coach - not for interim or permanent PBO.
Re: Coaching shortlist
Posted: Sat Oct 13, 2018 1:54 pm
by WildWolf2813
Interim would just be whoever is left, so Greer or Pinckney until the offseason when they can hire a full-time coach.
Stackhouse should be near the top of the list. Get someone who is young that everyone respects.
Re: Coaching shortlist
Posted: Sat Oct 13, 2018 1:58 pm
by SameOldNudityDrew
Jay Wright is the guy I've been calling for for at least 10 years, but it'll never happen, especially not now.
Re: Coaching shortlist
Posted: Sat Oct 13, 2018 2:17 pm
by WildWolf2813
SameOldNudityDrew wrote:Jay Wright is the guy I've been calling for for almost 10 years, but it'll never happen, especially not now.
Jay wouldn't coach the Sixers, and they're twice as good as us.
The time to go after Wright was 2007 when we had Foye here. It's not gonna happen now.
I'm not sure there's really a hot college candidate at this stage who would actually leave the program after the season's over (there's no Brad Stevens-type lurking around)
Jerry Stackhouse
Jay Larranaga
Ime Udoka
Rod Strickland
Jarron Collins
Darrell Armstrong
Bill Bayno
Monty Williams
One of these guys needs to be Wolves' head coach next season barring a major surprise from one of the assistants this year.
Re: Coaching shortlist
Posted: Sat Oct 13, 2018 2:32 pm
by Lipoli390
WildWolf2813 wrote:SameOldNudityDrew wrote:Jay Wright is the guy I've been calling for for almost 10 years, but it'll never happen, especially not now.
Jay wouldn't coach the Sixers, and they're twice as good as us.
The time to go after Wright was 2007 when we had Foye here. It's not gonna happen now.
I'm not sure there's really a hot college candidate at this stage who would actually leave the program after the season's over (there's no Brad Stevens-type lurking around)
Jerry Stackhouse
Jay Larranaga
Ime Udoka
Rod Strickland
Jarron Collins
Darrell Armstrong
Bill Bayno
Monty Williams
One of these guys needs to be Wolves' head coach next season barring a major surprise from one of the assistants this year.
Actually, the time to go after Wright was two summers ago when the Wolves hired Thibodeau. The Wolves' coaching job at the time was the most coveted head coaching job in the League. Glen painted by numbers and hired a dinosaur. He and his executive team showed no imagination, no depth of thought and rushed down a narrow corridor in making a bad decision. I wrote a letter to the Wolves front office executives at the time explaining why I thought hiring Thibodeau to either position was a terrible idea. I re-sent that letter a couple weeks ago as a reminder that all the reasons I gave back then have been validated.
Stackhouse and Udoka are intriguing prospects to replace Thibodeau as head coach. The only one on your list I'd absolutely stay away from is Bayno.
Re: Coaching shortlist
Posted: Sat Oct 13, 2018 2:44 pm
by Monster
lipoli390 wrote:WildWolf2813 wrote:SameOldNudityDrew wrote:Jay Wright is the guy I've been calling for for almost 10 years, but it'll never happen, especially not now.
Jay wouldn't coach the Sixers, and they're twice as good as us.
The time to go after Wright was 2007 when we had Foye here. It's not gonna happen now.
I'm not sure there's really a hot college candidate at this stage who would actually leave the program after the season's over (there's no Brad Stevens-type lurking around)
Jerry Stackhouse
Jay Larranaga
Ime Udoka
Rod Strickland
Jarron Collins
Darrell Armstrong
Bill Bayno
Monty Williams
One of these guys needs to be Wolves' head coach next season barring a major surprise from one of the assistants this year.
Actually, the time to go after Wright was two summers ago when the Wolves hired Thibodeau. The Wolves' coaching job at the time was the most coveted head coaching job in the League. Glen painted by numbers and hired a dinosaur. He and his executive team showed no imagination, no depth of thought and rushed down a narrow corridor in making a bad decision. I wrote a letter to the Wolves front office executives at the time explaining why I thought hiring Thibodeau to either position was a terrible idea. I re-sent that letter a couple weeks ago as a reminder that all the reasons I gave back then have been validated.
Stackhouse and Udoka are intriguing prospects to replace Thibodeau as head coach. The only one on your list I'd absolutely stay away from is Bayno.
The last I heard about Bayno was he wasn't interested in that type of gig for various reasons.
Monte Williams is a guy that I could see Glen wanting. I don't know if he is the right guy to take this team where it ultimately needs to go but he might not be a bad hire either...if he is willing to get into this mess. He was under consideration to some extent the last time we were looking.
Re: Coaching shortlist
Posted: Sat Oct 13, 2018 2:47 pm
by KG4Ever
Not Greer or Pinckney. No Thibs guys! Ryan or McHale as interim and next off season open up the process. Ideally, we can get someone relatively young who can relate to young players and help develop them. Honestly, I don't mind taking a step back this year as we need to transition from the mess that Thibs created and reload with a young nucleus. I'd look for an opportunity to trade fossils like Taj and Teague if we can get something of value back. I'd rather Tyus get a chance to start so we can see what we got there.
Re: Coaching shortlist
Posted: Sat Oct 13, 2018 3:02 pm
by Monster
How about an interim rotation with some old coaches each getting a chance to do one last game? Heck get in some old HOF players to coach a game. Phil Jackson can coach a game via FaceTime from his special chair in Montana. George Karl can get then running and gunning. Hubie can do the broadcast and coach at the same time. So can PJ Carlisamo...heck there are a lot of options for that! Get Kareem for a game. Get Barkley and Shaq to co-coach a game. If we are gonna be a joke let's have some real fun with it.
Re: Coaching shortlist
Posted: Sat Oct 13, 2018 3:50 pm
by MikeAz [enjin:6636981]
Getting rid of Thibs has jumped to the top of my wish list. Make a call to David Griffin pronto. Bring in Stackhouse to coach. If Richardson, Waiters & #1 (they should push for unprotected #1) is still on the table for Butler, take it. All before Wednesday. Then tank for RJ Barrett. Am I being unrealistic?
Re: Coaching shortlist
Posted: Sat Oct 13, 2018 3:58 pm
by Monster
MikeAz wrote:Getting rid of Thibs has jumped to the top of my wish list. Make a call to David Griffin pronto. Bring in Stackhouse to coach. If Richardson, Waiters & #1 (they should push for unprotected #1) is still on the table for Butler, take it. All before Wednesday. Then tank for RJ Barrett. Am I being unrealistic?
I posted a GM thread and was talking about him in that one also. Do you have any insight on him from when he worked all those years for the Suns?