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In the record prediction thread I had predicted that Rosas would trade everyone outside of Culver and Kat. Looks like that was right on the money. He wants his mark on the franchise before anyone can negatively evaluate him. KAT and Okogie are all that are left from the old regimes. Impressive overhaul all before the draft. He certainly knows how to make a deal, even if they might not be the best deals for us.
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thedoper wrote:In the record prediction thread I had predicted that Rosas would trade everyone outside of Culver and Kat. Looks like that was right on the money. He wants his mark on the franchise before anyone can negatively evaluate him. KAT and Okogie are all that are left from the old regimes. Impressive overhaul all before the draft. He certainly knows how to make a deal, even if they might not be the best deals for us.


Honestly Rosas trading away nearly everyone doesn't even bother me. I'm pretty conservative when it comes to making deals etc but I said before last offseason if I was the GM pretty much everyone would have been available. Who had proven they were the guy at any position outside of Towns? Nobody. This season we got more of the same at this point except Wiggins proved he doesn't suck...but...he probably didn't fit here long term. Some of Rosas's moves have actually made sense to me. I get why people aren't exactly giving him the benefit of the doubt...especially after that good start and then hopes got dashed...again.
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monsterpile wrote:
thedoper wrote:In the record prediction thread I had predicted that Rosas would trade everyone outside of Culver and Kat. Looks like that was right on the money. He wants his mark on the franchise before anyone can negatively evaluate him. KAT and Okogie are all that are left from the old regimes. Impressive overhaul all before the draft. He certainly knows how to make a deal, even if they might not be the best deals for us.


Honestly Rosas trading away nearly everyone doesn't even bother me. I'm pretty conservative when it comes to making deals etc but I said before last offseason if I was the GM pretty much everyone would have been available. Who had proven they were the guy at any position outside of Towns? Nobody. This season we got more of the same at this point except Wiggins proved he doesn't suck...but...he probably didn't fit here long term. Some of Rosas's moves have actually made sense to me. I get why people aren't exactly giving him the benefit of the doubt...especially after that good start and then hopes got dashed...again.


It doesn't bother me either. I'm impressed how quickly he put his mark on this team. I'm not convinced that we got any better, but I'm a Wolves fan. It would be silly to think things have turned around ever.
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thedoper wrote:
monsterpile wrote:
thedoper wrote:In the record prediction thread I had predicted that Rosas would trade everyone outside of Culver and Kat. Looks like that was right on the money. He wants his mark on the franchise before anyone can negatively evaluate him. KAT and Okogie are all that are left from the old regimes. Impressive overhaul all before the draft. He certainly knows how to make a deal, even if they might not be the best deals for us.


Honestly Rosas trading away nearly everyone doesn't even bother me. I'm pretty conservative when it comes to making deals etc but I said before last offseason if I was the GM pretty much everyone would have been available. Who had proven they were the guy at any position outside of Towns? Nobody. This season we got more of the same at this point except Wiggins proved he doesn't suck...but...he probably didn't fit here long term. Some of Rosas's moves have actually made sense to me. I get why people aren't exactly giving him the benefit of the doubt...especially after that good start and then hopes got dashed...again.


It doesn't bother me either. I'm impressed how quickly he put his mark on this team. I'm not convinced that we got any better, but I'm a Wolves fan. It would be silly to think things have turned around ever.

I'm on record to say things have gotten worse today. Time will tell. And it's not about Wiggins being better than Russell. It's about a 94' game, and losing flexibility, and adding immaturity. We already have one of the most immature players in the league. This is going to be a disaster.
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CoolBreeze44 wrote:
thedoper wrote:
monsterpile wrote:
thedoper wrote:In the record prediction thread I had predicted that Rosas would trade everyone outside of Culver and Kat. Looks like that was right on the money. He wants his mark on the franchise before anyone can negatively evaluate him. KAT and Okogie are all that are left from the old regimes. Impressive overhaul all before the draft. He certainly knows how to make a deal, even if they might not be the best deals for us.


Honestly Rosas trading away nearly everyone doesn't even bother me. I'm pretty conservative when it comes to making deals etc but I said before last offseason if I was the GM pretty much everyone would have been available. Who had proven they were the guy at any position outside of Towns? Nobody. This season we got more of the same at this point except Wiggins proved he doesn't suck...but...he probably didn't fit here long term. Some of Rosas's moves have actually made sense to me. I get why people aren't exactly giving him the benefit of the doubt...especially after that good start and then hopes got dashed...again.


It doesn't bother me either. I'm impressed how quickly he put his mark on this team. I'm not convinced that we got any better, but I'm a Wolves fan. It would be silly to think things have turned around ever.

I'm on record to say things have gotten worse today. Time will tell. And it's not about Wiggins being better than Russell. It's about a 94' game, and losing flexibility, and adding immaturity. We already have one of the most immature players in the league. This is going to be a disaster.




I'm ok with it. More material for me to go on rants about... bring it on!

There's a decent chance I'm gonna have fun breaking down Russell's game and his place in the league...
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Very delusional fan base. Most posters on the board thought we'd get a combination of Two 1st rounds and/or a young prospect for Cov the Glove, laughable and delusional. Most thought we'd get a 1st for Teague, also delusional. Most Posters overrated Saric, delusional also.

Rosas inherited a terrible roster with no financial flexibility. Our best player is an immature baby, with has zero interest in playing defense, that's a big problem, also he hasn't been on the court for a win in 2 months.
I know everyone loves overrating our "assets" but any sane person would say this DLo move, no matter how it works out was at least logical.
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Cool- It's already a disaster. The Wolves have the worst record since starting 10-7. Now you can say they were holding players out and tanking, yeah sure they were. But then why are they tanking? Probably because the GM and most fans know they have not enough talent to compete. They could maybe sneak into the playoffs every year and get crushed. Or just miss the playoffs too and never get better. That doesn't make sense when the ability to lose to draft better players is an option.

Well we know they have no picks in 2021 right? So they have no reason to tank next season. I'm not a huge DLO guy, I don't think he's that good either, but then it's Wiggins who has had 6 years of doing nothing. I'll take a box of peanuts for Wiggins and be happy.
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WolvesFan21 wrote:Cool- It's already a disaster. The Wolves have the worst record since starting 10-7. Now you can say they were holding players out and tanking, yeah sure they were. But then why are they tanking? Probably because the GM and most fans know they have not enough talent to compete. They could maybe sneak into the playoffs every year and get crushed. Or just miss the playoffs too and never get better. That doesn't make sense when the ability to lose to draft better players is an option.

Well we know they have no picks in 2021 right? So they have no reason to tank next season. I'm not a huge DLO guy, I don't think he's that good either, but then it's Wiggins who has had 6 years of doing nothing. I'll take a box of peanuts for Wiggins and be happy.

Yeah but for whatever production you gain with Russell over Wiggins, I think you lose more in the locker room and off the court. I sincerely hope it works but I have to give you my honest opinion on what i foresee. Spoiler alert - it isn't good.
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KG4Ever wrote:
khans2k5 wrote:
KG4Ever wrote:Kahn didn't have anything to mess up. Thibs and Rosas took something that was once promising and turned it into turd stew.


He literally passed up on the greatest shooter in the history of basketball because Steph didn't talk to him. What the fuck are you talking about dude?


You missed my point. Wolves were terrible when Kahn took over and remained terrible. Before Thibs took reigns, people were fantasizing about multiple titles coming with the best young core in the NBA and lots of capspace and a top 5 pick. I couldn't have written a worse script for this franchise had I tried. Thibs and Rosas have been complete disasters.

We've seen worse. Starbury blowing up a potential HoF duo? Career ending injuries to your stars? It could be A LOT worse dude lmao
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I've defended Wiggins a lot but the guy didn't play hard a lot of the time he was here and took dumb inefficient shots. Because he is a nice guy or whatever He seems to get a pass and a negative on a team...but I'm not sure the gap between him and Russell in terms of negative vibes or whatever is THAT large. Wiggins is clearly well liked but He was called out by some players and some fans loathed the guy and a lot of it was deserved.

Now do I think Towns and Russell are THE pair to take us to new heights? Idk maybe neither guy is really the type that can be THE GUY. Those guys are really hard to find. A while back someone compared Cousins and Towns. I've been contemplating that. Maybe there is a bit to that. We will see. Some players are really good but they can't be THE GUY. I don't think AD can be THE guy but he is a really damn good player when healthy. Personally I'm looking forward to seeing if Russell and Tpwns can do something successful together no guard has really worked with Towns yet which feels sort of mind blowing considering Towns offensive skill and talent some of that in the past has been on Towns. Some of it on coaching. Some of it on the guards. I'm ok with having some curiosity about this team. Russell brings something to be legitimately curious about mostly in a good way IMO.
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