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Re: Draft Opinions

Posted: Sat Jun 13, 2015 7:55 pm
by Monster
Of the guys I watched in college this year (mostly just the tourney) the guy I liked/impressed me the most was Winslow. I am not saying I pick him 1 or anything he is just a guy I really like. I say that partly because I didn't even know he existed before watching the first game I watched so yeah.

Guys I want or intrigued by that are likely outside of the top 10 or whatever:

Bobby Portis I haven't seen him play but I like what I see.

Trey Lyles intruiged size fluidity but what is he really?

Jerian Grant tough lengthy scoring PG probably can play some SG too

Tyus Jones. Sure I like him doesn't matter that he is from the area.

Re: Draft Opinions

Posted: Sat Jun 13, 2015 8:01 pm
by Q12543 [enjin:6621299]
I get that Trey Burke vibe from Tyus Jones. Not good.

Re: Draft Opinions

Posted: Sat Jun 13, 2015 8:20 pm
by BizarroJerry [enjin:6592520]
Which guy has the best smile?

Re: Draft Opinions

Posted: Sat Jun 13, 2015 8:50 pm
by Monster
Q12543 wrote:I get that Trey Burke vibe from Tyus Jones. Not good.


Q I've had that thought also actually. I thought Burke was really overrated in that draft. I like Tyus but I think some people are too high on him. I'd take him far enough down in the draft. He is a young guy with some good qualities and a young PG is something that we could invest in. Burke has been a big dissappointment so far maybe Tyus can be something more. As you can see he isn't at the top of my list.

Re: Draft Opinions

Posted: Sat Jun 13, 2015 10:17 pm
by TheFuture
Best Player- Russell

Most Upside- Porzingis

Best Fit- Towns, Russell

Safest- Okafor

Overrated- WCS

Underrated- Tyus Jones, Justice Winslow

Re: Draft Opinions

Posted: Sun Jun 14, 2015 12:45 am
by WildWolf2813
Best Player: Karl-Anthony Towns

Most Upside: D'Angelo Russell, Mario Hezonja

Best Fit: Karl-Anthony Towns

Safest: Jahlil Okafor

Overrated: Stanley Johnson

Underrated: Mario Hezonja

Re: Draft Opinions

Posted: Sun Jun 14, 2015 1:19 am
by TeamRicky [enjin:6648771]
Best Player- Towns

Most Upside- Towns

Best Fit- Towns

Safest- Winslow & Okafor

Overrated- Russell

Underrated- Winslow, Turner, Portis, Looney

Least Safe (Boom/Bust): Porzingis, Russell, WCS

Re: Draft Opinions

Posted: Sun Jun 14, 2015 8:07 am
by TheFuture
TeamRicky wrote:Best Player- Towns

Most Upside- Towns

Best Fit- Towns

Safest- Winslow & Okafor

Overrated- Russell

Underrated- Winslow, Turner, Portis, Looney

Least Safe (Boom/Bust): Porzingis, Russell, WCS


How is Russell overrated? He and Okafor are the only two of the top that actually proved what they can do with extended mins. Towns for instance has everuthing extrapolated.

Re: Draft Opinions

Posted: Sun Jun 14, 2015 8:53 am
by Lipoli390
Best Player- Russell/Towns (tie)

Most Upside- Porzingis (Towns is close second)

Best Fit- Towns (no close second)

Safest- Okafor

Overrated- WCS

Underrated- Jordan Mickey

Re: Draft Opinions

Posted: Sun Jun 14, 2015 9:41 am
by TeamRicky [enjin:6648771]
TheFuture wrote:
TeamRicky wrote:Best Player- Towns

Most Upside- Towns

Best Fit- Towns

Safest- Winslow & Okafor

Overrated- Russell

Underrated- Winslow, Turner, Portis, Looney

Least Safe (Boom/Bust): Porzingis, Russell, WCS


How is Russell overrated? He and Okafor are the only two of the top that actually proved what they can do with extended mins. Towns for instance has everuthing extrapolated.

TheFuture wrote:
TeamRicky wrote:Best Player- Towns

Most Upside- Towns

Best Fit- Towns

Safest- Winslow & Okafor

Overrated- Russell

Underrated- Winslow, Turner, Portis, Looney

Least Safe (Boom/Bust): Porzingis, Russell, WCS


How is Russell overrated? He and Okafor are the only two of the top that actually proved what they can do with extended mins. Towns for instance has everuthing extrapolated.


You are proving my point. You assume he's a proven commodity and I don't see it that way. I've posted my concerns about Russell in another thread, but if you missed them, I'll recap. He has put up decent stats overall, but when you look at his numbers his good shooting stats were accumulated overwhelmingly against weaker teams. He shot less than 36% against ranked teams. I don't recall seeing this type of dichotomy for anyone else. He was rated 18th overall in his class coming out of high school and I don't think he should leap to the top of the class based on exploiting weak teams. He was put in a role much like Evan Turner where the offense ran through him and he put up nice assists, rebounds and points. I do like his passing and outside shooting, but not much else. His defense is bad. He can't shoot to his right. He is not a great athlete and is not strong. I don't like that he thinks he is better than he is. He boasted that nobody can defend him. But Arizona held him to 3 of 19 shooting, North Carolina held him to 4 of 17 shooting, Michigan St held him to 4 of 13 shooting, Iowa held him to 4 of 16 shooting, Louisville held him to 6 of 20 shooting, Wisconsin held him to 7 of 18 shooting, Ohio State lost all those games.