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Bah. I'm with Team Ricky. 10% Pork Chop. I'll guess that the timing of the poll (after he missed a couple games and hasn't played well) will have an affect on the ratings you'll get today by some. That's just the nature of the beast on boards - over reaction. Rubio will rebound and start playing good ball and then you'll see those same guys scrambling to reduce their Pork Chop ratings. I'm not tied to Rubio. If they can find a better PG - great, go get one. Rubio would certainly make a nice back up. Until then - I'm fine with running Rubio out there. He's not hurting us at his worst and at his best - he makes us much better.

alexftbl8181 wrote:

CoolBreeze44 wrote:Here's a thread where we can monitor the status of the board as it pertains to Ricky's approval rating.

Ground rules:

- You must express your rating in terms of a percentage in increments of 5%
- You can update your rating anytime you wish, but as SP mandated, once you reach Full PorkChop (100%) you are essentially locked in and cannot go back.

Definitions:

- Zero PorkChop - Ricky is the present and for at least the next 7-8 years the future at PG for the Wolves

- Full PorkChop - We are wasting our time with Ricky as our lead guard, and it's time to move on as quickly as possible.

- A rating of 50% would mean you fall right in the middle of both extremes.

Have fun with this!

Does anybody REALLY think Rubio would be this teams point guard for 8 more years? That seems a little too extreme

I get what you are saying but IF he stayed healthy he would be 33 in 8 years so it's not exactly crazy. I guess to me that end of the spectrum means you are basically absolutely completely sold on Rubio. I doubt anyone here is gonna fall there but it seems fine to have that as one point on the scale.

5% chopped pork

I appear to be the outlier, as I am 80-90% Porkchop. And this is certainly not, as 1 poster states, a condemnation "on the past few games", but rather an entire career. Look, I am fine with Ricky when healthy (warts and all), but that is simply not that often. And the straw that breaks the camels back is that he simply isn't good enough to wait through all the injuries. If he was an absolute game-changer (ala Paul, Westbrook, Curry), then certainly, you put up with the injuries to a much greater degree. But Ricky is a middle-of-the-road PG. He is just not worth 40-60 games a year....he just isn't.

I am like 80 perc PorkChop ..

Rubio is in his 5th year and his shooting looks to be record low despite fluke Lakers game ..

As a euro guy i remember him in Barcelona, he got like no playing time there, because against zone defenses he just cannot work at all, he is lucky that in NBA game zone is not more prevalent as most players have skills to break it ..

He is probably the worst finisher around the rim in NBA history too (at least from starters), you put a finger on him and he is capable to airball layups, also i remember how these boards wrecked Adelman for not playing him in 4th quarters despite fact that he was historically bad in them that year, if you play close games he will hurt you bigtime, you just cannot afford your opponent to be able to go under every screen and double guys at will with zero punishment, so Adelman had to go with freakin J.J. Barea to have some chance to win a game ..

on defense he is good mostly as a help defender and gambler, he leaves his guard wide open (just watch that sometimes), but as a onball defender against fast point guards he just watches jerseys from behind, he is also horrible in getting around screens ..

on top of that there are all those injuries and like zero improvement during his seasons as a wolf

I thought we needed to draft and develop another pg after Ricky's 1st injury. But I am still not deterred. 10% Porkchop. He is still what he always was, a fragile, bad shooting, great passing, good defending, winner. I'll still take that on my team. That doesn't mean we shouldn't be looking at young PGs. I think we absolutely should.

thedoper wrote:I thought we needed to draft and develop another pg after Ricky's 1st injury. But I am still not deterred. 10% Porkchop. He is still what he always was, a fragile, bad shooting, great passing, good defending, winner. I'll still take that on my team. That doesn't mean we shouldn't be looking at young PGs. I think we absolutely should.

You're gonna need to explain that one.

What has he won exactly?

I'm probably the biggest Rubio fan on this board, but even I'm getting worried. Between his health issues and worsening shooting woes, it's hard to just brush those issues aside. I'm at 30%.

AbeVigodaLive wrote:

thedoper wrote:I thought we needed to draft and develop another pg after Ricky's 1st injury. But I am still not deterred. 10% Porkchop. He is still what he always was, a fragile, bad shooting, great passing, good defending, winner. I'll still take that on my team. That doesn't mean we shouldn't be looking at young PGs. I think we absolutely should.

You're gonna need to explain that one.

What has he won exactly?

Oh man Abe. Semantics yes. He plays to win, does the little things which are represented in the aggregate advanced metrics that Q likes to cite. We are a better team with him.

thedoper wrote:

AbeVigodaLive wrote:

thedoper wrote:I thought we needed to draft and develop another pg after Ricky's 1st injury. But I am still not deterred. 10% Porkchop. He is still what he always was, a fragile, bad shooting, great passing, good defending, winner. I'll still take that on my team. That doesn't mean we shouldn't be looking at young PGs. I think we absolutely should.

You're gonna need to explain that one.

What has he won exactly?

Oh man Abe. Semantics yes. He plays to win, does the little things which are represented in the aggregate advanced metrics that Q likes to cite. We are a better team with him.

Semantics, maybe. I just think it's important to note that it's still not a winning team. The closest the Wolves came was in 2014 when Rubio played all 82 games. That was a classic front-running team though... dominating in blowouts, including many by 30+ points... yet was some unbelievable 1 - 13 in games decided by 4 points or less (or something close to that).

Everybody got blamed for that. Love. Martin. Adelman. Barea. Rubio should, too.

Considering the only thing close to a winning team the franchise has had in 10+ years was a remarkably underachieving team (top 10 offense and defense most of the year... Expected W-L record of 48-34)... I couldn't help but notice when I saw anybody associated with this franchise be labeled a winner.