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Re: Top 5 All time Favorite TWolves

Posted: Tue Feb 24, 2015 8:42 am
by bleedspeed
KG, Marbury, Rubio, Rider, Cassell

Outside the top 5

Googs, Wally, Wiggins, Campbell, Love


Looking at Marbury other then assists. Flynn was better all around per 36 minutes his rookie year. (stupid triangle)

http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/f/flynnjo01.html
http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/m/marbust01.html

Still think Flynn got the unlucky injury bounce.

Re: Top 5 All time Favorite TWolves

Posted: Tue Feb 24, 2015 8:48 am
by AbeVigodaLive
bleedspeed177 wrote:KG, Marbury, Rubio, Rider, Cassell

Outside the top 5

Googs, Wally, West, Campbell, Love


Looking at Marbury other then assists. Flynn was better all around per 36 minutes his rookie year. (stupid triangle)

http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/f/flynnjo01.html
http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/m/marbust01.html

Still think Flynn got the unlucky injury bounce.



As you note, it depends on which stats you use. Marbury had a higher PER too... for what that stat is worth. Then, there's the eye test stuff that is abhorred by analytics.

Re: Top 5 All time Favorite TWolves

Posted: Tue Feb 24, 2015 8:51 am
by Camden [enjin:6601484]
Garnett
Love
Rubio
Cassell
Wally

Re: Top 5 All time Favorite TWolves

Posted: Tue Feb 24, 2015 8:52 am
by bleedspeed
AbeVigodaLive wrote:
As you note, it depends on which stats you use. Marbury had a higher PER too... for what that stat is worth. Then, there's the eye test stuff that is abhorred by analytics.


The coaching and system was so bad with that team. I need to modifed my list though. Wiggins is on it. He has a chance to be the highest scoring rookie in Wolves history. He is only 1 ppg behind Rider at this point. (Doug West was bumped)

Re: Top 5 All time Favorite TWolves

Posted: Tue Feb 24, 2015 8:55 am
by BizarroJerry [enjin:6592520]
KG
Rubio
Cassell
Love
Rick Mahorn

Re: Top 5 All time Favorite TWolves

Posted: Tue Feb 24, 2015 9:06 am
by 60WinTim
KG - the reason I'm a fan
Love - I think I was the only one thrilled with the Love-Mayo trade the moment it happened
Rubio - Wildwolf was wrong about Mayo, but right about Rubio
Wiggins - it's a bit early, but I've been blown away by how good he is already!
Cassell/Wally/Googs/Marbury - kind of all tied for 5th...

Re: Top 5 All time Favorite TWolves

Posted: Tue Feb 24, 2015 9:07 am
by AbeVigodaLive
bleedspeed177 wrote:
AbeVigodaLive wrote:
As you note, it depends on which stats you use. Marbury had a higher PER too... for what that stat is worth. Then, there's the eye test stuff that is abhorred by analytics.


The coaching and system was so bad with that team. I need to modifed my list though. Wiggins is on it. He has a chance to be the highest scoring rookie in Wolves history. He is only 1 ppg behind Rider at this point. (Doug West was bumped)



Good to see Doug West get a mention though.

How much would the current statheads hate Dougie's mid-range game?

Re: Top 5 All time Favorite TWolves

Posted: Tue Feb 24, 2015 9:44 am
by Jester1534
AbeVigodaLive wrote:Garnett. Best player for more than a decade. Played team ball. Made it easier to ignore the random silliness at times.

Ricky Rubio. Despite taking a more critical view at times to temper the sometimes unrealistic takes on his game and his shooting from other fans... I really dig watching him play. The pass-first PG will always be my favorite... and nobody plays that role better than Rubio right now.

Bobby Jackson. Never fell in love with a player as quickly as I did Bobby Jackson during that memorable Gophers season. My adoration followed Jackson into the pros.

Gugliotta. My first basketball love, the Celtics, had a do-everything forward who might have been Jesus. So anytime a guy was compared to Larry Legend, I took notice.

Kevin Love. Yeah, a bit selfish. Disingenuous. Etc. But after how Rambis/Kahn treated him (sitting him behind a frontline of Darko and Ryan Hollins)... you can see why things were never quite perfect.


[note: honorary mention: wally szczerbiak. this one is for the gal pal, a non-basketball fan. but, i always got a kick out of her seeing me watch a wolves game... and asking the inevitable "wally playing?" question. heck, i think she was still asking after he had retired for chrissakes. i don't know if she thought he was dreamy or the only guy she remembered...]



Abe Bobby Jackson is one of the most kind person I've ever met. He's my dads best friends sons God father, so I've meet him a couple times and has nothing but kind to my family. He even came out to watch my little sister play in one of her high school games out of the blue.

Re: Top 5 All time Favorite TWolves

Posted: Tue Feb 24, 2015 9:55 am
by AbeVigodaLive
Jester1534 wrote:
AbeVigodaLive wrote:Garnett. Best player for more than a decade. Played team ball. Made it easier to ignore the random silliness at times.

Ricky Rubio. Despite taking a more critical view at times to temper the sometimes unrealistic takes on his game and his shooting from other fans... I really dig watching him play. The pass-first PG will always be my favorite... and nobody plays that role better than Rubio right now.

Bobby Jackson. Never fell in love with a player as quickly as I did Bobby Jackson during that memorable Gophers season. My adoration followed Jackson into the pros.

Gugliotta. My first basketball love, the Celtics, had a do-everything forward who might have been Jesus. So anytime a guy was compared to Larry Legend, I took notice.

Kevin Love. Yeah, a bit selfish. Disingenuous. Etc. But after how Rambis/Kahn treated him (sitting him behind a frontline of Darko and Ryan Hollins)... you can see why things were never quite perfect.


[note: honorary mention: wally szczerbiak. this one is for the gal pal, a non-basketball fan. but, i always got a kick out of her seeing me watch a wolves game... and asking the inevitable "wally playing?" question. heck, i think she was still asking after he had retired for chrissakes. i don't know if she thought he was dreamy or the only guy she remembered...]



Abe Bobby Jackson is one of the most kind person I've ever met. He's my dads best friends sons God father, so I've meet him a couple times and has nothing but kind to my family. He even came out to watch my little sister play in one of her high school games out of the blue.




Great. Now my unhealthy man-crush has been taken to the next level.

Re: Top 5 All time Favorite TWolves

Posted: Tue Feb 24, 2015 9:58 am
by longstrangetrip [enjin:6600564]
AbeVigodaLive wrote:Garnett. Best player for more than a decade. Played team ball. Made it easier to ignore the random silliness at times.

Ricky Rubio. Despite taking a more critical view at times to temper the sometimes unrealistic takes on his game and his shooting from other fans... I really dig watching him play. The pass-first PG will always be my favorite... and nobody plays that role better than Rubio right now.

Bobby Jackson. Never fell in love with a player as quickly as I did Bobby Jackson during that memorable Gophers season. My adoration followed Jackson into the pros.

Gugliotta. My first basketball love, the Celtics, had a do-everything forward who might have been Jesus. So anytime a guy was compared to Larry Legend, I took notice.

Kevin Love. Yeah, a bit selfish. Disingenuous. Etc. But after how Rambis/Kahn treated him (sitting him behind a frontline of Darko and Ryan Hollins)... you can see why things were never quite perfect.


[note: honorary mention: wally szczerbiak. this one is for the gal pal, a non-basketball fan. but, i always got a kick out of her seeing me watch a wolves game... and asking the inevitable "wally playing?" question. heck, i think she was still asking after he had retired for chrissakes. i don't know if she thought he was dreamy or the only guy she remembered...]

Nice call on Jackson...I loved him as a player too.

And my Sam Mitchell call is partly for my wife also, because she always thought Sam was hot. We were lucky to sit courtside several times during the Mitchell years, and he never failed to give my bride a wink at least once a game as he ran past...made me kind of jealous!