The Official 2015-2016 Wins Prediction Thread

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I am going with 41 wins. I think Mitchell and his emphasis on D is worth at least five more wins. Having a healthy Rubio is worth an additional ten. I think we have a stronger overall cast that will be able to weather the injuries better. I am not counting on Pek for more than 20 games, with 60 from Martin, but I am writing Ricky in for a full season. Obviously KG is extremely important to our overall defensive identity, so I am counting on him playing or at least being on the bench for 70 games.

While many are wondering about a jump for the second and third year guys, I think we already saw that when you look at Zach and Andrew in the latter half of the season. I really think the biggest jump is going to come defensively though. When I look at teams like Sac, Utah, Pho, etc. I don't see any more talent there. It is health and coaching, and while Sam wouldn't be my pick, I think he is a significant step up from Flip if he doesn't lose the players.
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TheSP wrote:With good health: 40 wins
With Wolves health: 20 wins


So can we put you down for 30?
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sjm34 wrote:I am going with 41 wins. I think Mitchell and his emphasis on D is worth at least five more wins. Having a healthy Rubio is worth an additional ten. I think we have a stronger overall cast that will be able to weather the injuries better. I am not counting on Pek for more than 20 games, with 60 from Martin, but I am writing Ricky in for a full season. Obviously KG is extremely important to our overall defensive identity, so I am counting on him playing or at least being on the bench for 70 games.

While many are wondering about a jump for the second and third year guys, I think we already saw that when you look at Zach and Andrew in the latter half of the season. I really think the biggest jump is going to come defensively though. When I look at teams like Sac, Utah, Pho, etc. I don't see any more talent there. It is health and coaching, and while Sam wouldn't be my pick, I think he is a significant step up from Flip if he doesn't lose the players.


Rubio playing a full season is key to 30 wins, nevermind 40. To me 40+ wins is simply unrealistic. That's not just a big turnaround defensively, that's a couple guys having big-time breakout seasons on offense too.
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Q12543 wrote:
sjm34 wrote:I am going with 41 wins. I think Mitchell and his emphasis on D is worth at least five more wins. Having a healthy Rubio is worth an additional ten. I think we have a stronger overall cast that will be able to weather the injuries better. I am not counting on Pek for more than 20 games, with 60 from Martin, but I am writing Ricky in for a full season. Obviously KG is extremely important to our overall defensive identity, so I am counting on him playing or at least being on the bench for 70 games.

While many are wondering about a jump for the second and third year guys, I think we already saw that when you look at Zach and Andrew in the latter half of the season. I really think the biggest jump is going to come defensively though. When I look at teams like Sac, Utah, Pho, etc. I don't see any more talent there. It is health and coaching, and while Sam wouldn't be my pick, I think he is a significant step up from Flip if he doesn't lose the players.


Rubio playing a full season is key to 30 wins, nevermind 40. To me 40+ wins is simply unrealistic. That's not just a big turnaround defensively, that's a couple guys having big-time breakout seasons on offense too.


Who is having those big breakout seasons in Utah or Phoenix? Who are the players there that are going to carry those teams?

I understand the GS, SA, LAC, OKC, Mem, teams being placed well above the teams, but most of these other teams have no more talent than the wolves (right now).

The wolves would be hard pressed to sustain the same amount of injuries to key players again, not to mention not being likely to trade away players at the deadline, and won't be tanking to end the season. 30 wins is what I expect without Ricky this season.

25 wins is unrealistic unless you plan on this team tanking to end the year.
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I think we are easily as talented as the 2013-2014 team. If we stay healthy I can't see how we wont be able to get 40 wins. I hate assuming injuries, which is why I went as high as I did.
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Our vets should get plenty of minutes, but they will get hurt. So our young guys will get plenty of development time this year. Goal should be getting wins, this franchise needs it, so the winning and development will be one and the same.

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sjm34 wrote:
Q12543 wrote:
sjm34 wrote:I am going with 41 wins. I think Mitchell and his emphasis on D is worth at least five more wins. Having a healthy Rubio is worth an additional ten. I think we have a stronger overall cast that will be able to weather the injuries better. I am not counting on Pek for more than 20 games, with 60 from Martin, but I am writing Ricky in for a full season. Obviously KG is extremely important to our overall defensive identity, so I am counting on him playing or at least being on the bench for 70 games.

While many are wondering about a jump for the second and third year guys, I think we already saw that when you look at Zach and Andrew in the latter half of the season. I really think the biggest jump is going to come defensively though. When I look at teams like Sac, Utah, Pho, etc. I don't see any more talent there. It is health and coaching, and while Sam wouldn't be my pick, I think he is a significant step up from Flip if he doesn't lose the players.


Rubio playing a full season is key to 30 wins, nevermind 40. To me 40+ wins is simply unrealistic. That's not just a big turnaround defensively, that's a couple guys having big-time breakout seasons on offense too.


Who is having those big breakout seasons in Utah or Phoenix? Who are the players there that are going to carry those teams?

I understand the GS, SA, LAC, OKC, Mem, teams being placed well above the teams, but most of these other teams have no more talent than the wolves (right now).

The wolves would be hard pressed to sustain the same amount of injuries to key players again, not to mention not being likely to trade away players at the deadline, and won't be tanking to end the season. 30 wins is what I expect without Ricky this season.

25 wins is unrealistic unless you plan on this team tanking to end the year.


Utah may have the best defensive center in the league. They already have an all-star caliber wing in Heyward and Favors may make the jump to all-star this year as well. Phoenix has 1 all-star in Bledsoe, added Chandler to help with the defense and Knight showed he was a borderline all-star for the Bucks (18/5/4 43/40/88). We have no all-stars. Who's carrying us? Ricky doesn't score enough to carry us. Wiggins and Lavine put up good stats when they were the only options, but we now have a fully healthy squad so they won't get 40 MPG's and a majority of the shots. Their quality young guys are all 3+ years in the league and most of ours are under 2 years.
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Wolves win 50% of Division games = 8
Wolves win 33% of remaining Western Conference games = 12
Wolves win 60% of Eastern Conference games = 18
Total 38 wins.
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khans2k5 wrote:
sjm34 wrote:

Who is having those big breakout seasons in Utah or Phoenix? Who are the players there that are going to carry those teams?

I understand the GS, SA, LAC, OKC, Mem, teams being placed well above the teams, but most of these other teams have no more talent than the wolves (right now).

The wolves would be hard pressed to sustain the same amount of injuries to key players again, not to mention not being likely to trade away players at the deadline, and won't be tanking to end the season. 30 wins is what I expect without Ricky this season.

25 wins is unrealistic unless you plan on this team tanking to end the year.


Utah may have the best defensive center in the league. They already have an all-star caliber wing in Heyward and Favors may make the jump to all-star this year as well. Phoenix has 1 all-star in Bledsoe, added Chandler to help with the defense and Knight showed he was a borderline all-star for the Bucks (18/5/4 43/40/88). We have no all-stars. Who's carrying us? Ricky doesn't score enough to carry us. Wiggins and Lavine put up good stats when they were the only options, but we now have a fully healthy squad so they won't get 40 MPG's and a majority of the shots. Their quality young guys are all 3+ years in the league and most of ours are under 2 years.


I like Gobert but he has zero offensive moves other than an alley oop. He is a younger DJ, which doesn't do much for you until you have Chris Paul. Trey Burkes certainly isn't going to make him relevant on that end. Favors is a solid PF, nothing more nothing less. Heyward will likely be passed by Wiggins this season if he hasn't been already.

Not sure when Bledsoe become an allstar. Chandler is way past his prime, and Brandon Knight isn't an upgrade from Ricky. Ricky can carry us because he makes the other guys better around him. Don't really care how many years guys have been in the league, but rather how well they are performing.

The wolves have just as much talent as either of those teams.
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