Camden wrote:If we squint [enough to be blind], Noah Vonleh is a Serge Ibaka clone and Jake Layman is Chandler Parsons -- Houston version.
I see what he's doing...
I'm squinting really hard right now, but for some reason I can't see anything! Am I doing this right?
Are your eyes completely closed now? Then yes, and I'd recommend doing this a lot next year as we deal with a team that looks headed for yet another lottery season. Can't get upset if you can't see what's happening! Or something like that.
I'm beginning to wonder if anyone's vision matters for this team. The thing Thibs had right is that the only way you can bring talent to our team is by trading for a disgruntled star. But even now they're choosing their destinations. We're going to be in the lottery and the "which LA team will KAT choose" news is right around the corner. This isn't player empowerment, it's entitlement.
thedoper wrote:I'm beginning to wonder if anyone's vision matters for this team. The thing Thibs had right is that the only way you can bring talent to our team is by trading for a disgruntled star. But even now they're choosing their destinations. We're going to be in the lottery and the "which LA team will KAT choose" news is right around the corner. This isn't player empowerment, it's entitlement.
Yep and I'm guessing KAT will be demanding a trade sometime this year. Or at least BSPN will push that.
thedoper wrote:I'm beginning to wonder if anyone's vision matters for this team. The thing Thibs had right is that the only way you can bring talent to our team is by trading for a disgruntled star. But even now they're choosing their destinations. We're going to be in the lottery and the "which LA team will KAT choose" news is right around the corner. This isn't player empowerment, it's entitlement.
Yep and I'm guessing KAT will be demanding a trade sometime this year. Or at least BSPN will push that.
Lol the first year of his 5 year guaranteed deal. He could cry all he wants. He's stuck for at least 3 years.
thedoper wrote:I'm beginning to wonder if anyone's vision matters for this team. The thing Thibs had right is that the only way you can bring talent to our team is by trading for a disgruntled star. But even now they're choosing their destinations. We're going to be in the lottery and the "which LA team will KAT choose" news is right around the corner. This isn't player empowerment, it's entitlement.
Yep and I'm guessing KAT will be demanding a trade sometime this year. Or at least BSPN will push that.
Lol the first year of his 5 year guaranteed deal. He could cry all he wants. He's stuck for at least 3 years.
Not in today's NBA. No star is stuck anywhere. If he wanted out, he could get out. I mean, Paul George literally signed a four-year, $137M deal just last summer and successfully got traded. Players are dictating their teams and who they play with more now than ever.
thedoper wrote:I'm beginning to wonder if anyone's vision matters for this team. The thing Thibs had right is that the only way you can bring talent to our team is by trading for a disgruntled star. But even now they're choosing their destinations. We're going to be in the lottery and the "which LA team will KAT choose" news is right around the corner. This isn't player empowerment, it's entitlement.
Yep and I'm guessing KAT will be demanding a trade sometime this year. Or at least BSPN will push that.
Lol the first year of his 5 year guaranteed deal. He could cry all he wants. He's stuck for at least 3 years.
Not in today's NBA. No star is stuck anywhere. If he wanted out, he could get out. I mean, Paul George literally signed a four-year, $137M deal just last summer and successfully got traded. Players are dictating their teams and who they play with more now than ever.
I'd love it if one team bites the bullet and refuses to trade a disgruntled player, but the league and coverage of it is so fucked up at this point that the story would be what it disservice it is to the player. Everything is turned on it's head.
thedoper wrote:I'm beginning to wonder if anyone's vision matters for this team. The thing Thibs had right is that the only way you can bring talent to our team is by trading for a disgruntled star. But even now they're choosing their destinations. We're going to be in the lottery and the "which LA team will KAT choose" news is right around the corner. This isn't player empowerment, it's entitlement.
Yep and I'm guessing KAT will be demanding a trade sometime this year. Or at least BSPN will push that.
Lol the first year of his 5 year guaranteed deal. He could cry all he wants. He's stuck for at least 3 years.
Not in today's NBA. No star is stuck anywhere. If he wanted out, he could get out. I mean, Paul George literally signed a four-year, $137M deal just last summer and successfully got traded. Players are dictating their teams and who they play with more now than ever.
First look at the contract status of literally all the other guys moving and PG is the outlier not the norm. The best everyone else has done has been 2 years left on their deal and there's a lot of them that fit in that boat. And second none of these guys are 23 on fresh 2nd contracts. Young players don't have power in this league. If they did the stars moving teams would be more often closer to 20 than 30 because a lot of them get drafted to bad teams that poorly build around them.
Rosas has been on the job since May 1. That's not a ton of time.
Rosas has put together a pretty impressive front office. That should give us hope.
Ryan Saunders...probably sounds nice to Towns so...then Rosas brings in a guy in Vanterpool who has been getting head coaching interviews around the league for a couple years and supposedly is a defensive mind. They kept nobody from the previous coaching staff.
Rosas trades up in the draft!!! What wow? The Wolves? People are at best split on this move but still that's something. Meanwhile Rosas has taken the spot vacated by Saric and added 2 young bigs in Vonleh and Bell that basically make even less than Saric and are younger. They got Naz reid as a 2-way player probably partly because they had opportunity at the time. They utilized a trade exemption to add Layman so they still have the full mid level IF they want to use it which seems like some nifty work. They added a couple dirt cheap bench guys and got paid cash to take them in Graham and Napier.
Will this stuff be good or enough? Idk but it seems like to me Rosas and company may deserve some credit for being competent maybe even promising as basketball executives. I'd guess that even though Towns is down about not getting Russell he sees some of these positives too. Next step is to be a player that is good enough and leads his team to be good enough maybe someone wants to come here. Is that really so far fetched? I personally don't think so. Would I bet on it? No but I do see some legit hope and a plan. That's not typical for the Wolves.
monsterpile wrote:Rosas has been on the job since May 1. That's not a ton of time.
Rosas has put together a pretty impressive front office. That should give us hope.
Ryan Saunders...probably sounds nice to Towns so...then Rosas brings in a guy in Vanterpool who has been getting head coaching interviews around the league for a couple years and supposedly is a defensive mind. They kept nobody from the previous coaching staff.
Rosas trades up in the draft!!! What wow? The Wolves? People are at best split on this move but still that's something. Meanwhile Rosas has taken the spot vacated by Saric and added 2 young bigs in Vonleh and Bell that basically make even less than Saric and are younger. They got Naz reid as a 2-way player probably partly because they had opportunity at the time. They utilized a trade exemption to add Layman so they still have the full mid level IF they want to use it which seems like some nifty work. They added a couple dirt cheap bench guys and got paid cash to take them in Graham and Napier.
Will this stuff be good or enough? Idk but it seems like to me Rosas and company may deserve some credit for being competent maybe even promising as basketball executives. I'd guess that even though Towns is down about not getting Russell he sees some of these positives too. Next step is to be a player that is good enough and leads his team to be good enough maybe someone wants to come here. Is that really so far fetched? I personally don't think so. Would I bet on it? No but I do see some legit hope and a plan. That's not typical for the Wolves.
