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WolvesFan21 wrote:

CoolBreeze44 wrote:I'm sorry, voting for Wiggins in this poll shows a special kind of ignorance.

LOL, recency bias maybe? I got him top 3 though without question. He could be a superstar if he had the mentality, some of these other guys simply had little talent.

He's just much better, and much more accomplished than anyone else on that list.

CoolBreeze44 wrote:

WolvesFan21 wrote:

CoolBreeze44 wrote:I'm sorry, voting for Wiggins in this poll shows a special kind of ignorance.

LOL, recency bias maybe? I got him top 3 though without question. He could be a superstar if he had the mentality, some of these other guys simply had little talent.

He's just much better, and much more accomplished than anyone else on that list.

I'm not saying he isn't, but at the same time the list is for guys who don't play hard or aggressive, not who is the biggest bust, whatever. If Okogie is a 9 on a scale of 1-10 then Wiggins is a 2. He has the occasional game like we saw with 40 and 10, then he goes into his shell for the rest of the year. It's pathetic. Not saying the other guys on the list are not.

WolvesFan21 wrote:

CoolBreeze44 wrote:

WolvesFan21 wrote:

CoolBreeze44 wrote:I'm sorry, voting for Wiggins in this poll shows a special kind of ignorance.

LOL, recency bias maybe? I got him top 3 though without question. He could be a superstar if he had the mentality, some of these other guys simply had little talent.

He's just much better, and much more accomplished than anyone else on that list.

I'm not saying he isn't, but at the same time the list is for guys who don't play hard or aggressive, not who is the biggest bust, whatever. If Okogie is a 9 on a scale of 1-10 then Wiggins is a 2. He has the occasional game like we saw with 40 and 10, then he goes into his shell for the rest of the year. It's pathetic. Not saying the other guys on the list are not.

My problem is you keep coming up with creative ways to make the same point. And then like every thread on the subject, the same followers pile on. At what point can we all agree that we get it? No matter how lazy you think he is or how much you hate his play, he's going to be one of the fastest players to 10,000 points of all time. He simply doesn't belong on a list with the players you mention.

Once or twice a year isn't "occasional".

Im trying to be subjective here, is Wiggins soft or does he have terrible hands. When I think of soft, I think of a guy who doesn't want the shot or gets bullied and misses a ton of games with minor "injuries". Once again I am not trying to really defend Wiggins, he is super inconsistent and that contract is a massive hamper for the Wolves going forward. But I still don't think it soft vs not soft thing, I think it comes down to how bad his handle and hands are.

The fact that a lot of you have Wiggins listed is probably a sign of your age.

But you should remember Wesley Johnson and Derek Williams.

Wally Szerbiak, Luc Longley and Cherokee Parks were all historically soft.

Isiah was soft 80 percent of the time. I mistook Michael Olowakandi for dryer lint during his time in Minnesota.

Wiggins can play very tough at times. I understand the frustration with his consistency playing tough, but c'mon, relative to Brad Miller?

On a side note was in OKC again last night and once again was amazed by how much their fans appreciate their team.

Darko!!!!! Only the Kandiman even approaches Darko's level of soft.

kekgeek1 wrote:Im trying to be subjective here, is Wiggins soft or does he have terrible hands. When I think of soft, I think of a guy who doesn't want the shot or gets bullied and misses a ton of games with minor "injuries". Once again I am not trying to really defend Wiggins, he is super inconsistent and that contract is a massive hamper for the Wolves going forward. But I still don't think it soft vs not soft thing, I think it comes down to how bad his handle and hands are.

He's soft in that he doesn't go for the dunk and tries weak ass layups, then misses most of the time. The only time I remember him going full force this year was when he knocked out Noel. His 40 point 10 rebound night. That was his highlight game of the year, maybe his life, since then he doesn't finish hard. Doesn't rebound hard. Doesn't play with close to max effort. So by definition he is playing soft. If he brought the mentality of that 40-10 Wiggins every night he could be an All-Star. He likely would be 25 pounds heavier and throwing it down on defenders on a regular basis. (like he use to, sort of)

It's all a mentality. He can do it, he just doesn't.

leado01 wrote:The fact that a lot of you have Wiggins listed is probably a sign of your age.

But you should remember Wesley Johnson and Derek Williams.

Wally Szerbiak, Luc Longley and Cherokee Parks were all historically soft.

Isiah was soft 80 percent of the time. I mistook Michael Olowakandi for dryer lint during his time in Minnesota.

Wiggins can play very tough at times. I understand the frustration with his consistency playing tough, but c'mon, relative to Brad Miller?

On a side note was in OKC again last night and once again was amazed by how much their fans appreciate their team.

Wes Johnson was a decent defender, decent motor I thought. He just had a horrible offensive game. Derek is on my list, so IDK. I did forget Longley. No match for Kandi and Darko though. I thought Szcerbiak played hard, he simply wasn't as gifted as most. I did also forget Rider. He was just along for the ride, no doubt. No pun intended.

You failed to answer the question however.

Flynn wasnt soft. Darko should have been created as a pillow by God. It would have suited him better