Camden0916 wrote:Remember when people thought Paul George was a realistic ceiling for Andrew Wiggins?
What a terrible joke that was.
Sweet reverse jinx.
I said this while he was already playing well in this game, so, not sure about a reverse jinx. You could tell this was a different Wiggins tonight just from him being aggressive right from the tip. When he's going at the rim consistently, he's a plus-player. That's always been the case. It's when he lives 18-25 feet away from the hoop that kills his game. Unfortunately, we see that guy more often than not.
And to clarify further, Wiggins has Paul George-level talent, but he hasn't come anywhere close to being that level of player. That's the unfortunate humor of it all. You can have superstar level ability, but it takes so much more than that to be an elite player in this league.
Camden0916 wrote:Remember when people thought Paul George was a realistic ceiling for Andrew Wiggins?
What a terrible joke that was.
Sweet reverse jinx.
I said this while he was already playing well in this game, so, not sure about a reverse jinx. You could tell this was a different Wiggins tonight just from him being aggressive right from the tip. When he's going at the rim consistently, he's a plus-player. That's always been the case. It's when he lives 18-25 feet away from the hoop that kills his game. Unfortunately, we see that guy more often than not.
And to clarify further, Wiggins has Paul George-level talent, but he hasn't come anywhere close to being that level of player. That's the unfortunate humor of it all. You can have superstar level ability, but it takes so much more than that to be an elite player in this league.
I'm with you Cam. We all want to see more of good Wiggins. Just teasing a bit.
Might have been the most off the ball movements we had since the furst game the new guys played.
It was refreshing not strictly relying on pg probes and isos. I loved watching kat throw some nice passes from the top of the key he was great at hitting those cutters and backdoor plays. And wiggs was active on both sides of the ball.
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Interesting quote from Taj Gibson: "We were talking about it on the plane flying down here as a collective group, talking about things we need to do better. A lot of us was like, 'We got to get Wig the ball. We got to get Wig the ball a lot more.' "
i get that it's the holidays, but this board is funny. There is so much more activity after a disappointing loss than a surprising win. It must be true, losing hurts a lot more than winning feels good.
Crazy win, so unexpected! It was like watching a completely different team, the ball moved, we were pushed the pace, not just on traditional fast breaks (2-1's), but pushing pace and passes to players on the wings before the defensive was set, getting early shots, which were good looks. I thought we were taking 3's we don't normally take. Tyus constantly was pushing the ball up the court, please no more Teague! Gorgui was great! This was a total team win. It wasn't iso, whether win iso or Kat post up iso ball, which I think is worse!
CoolBreeze44 wrote:i get that it's the holidays, but this board is funny. There is so much more activity after a disappointing loss than a surprising win. It must be true, losing hurts a lot more than winning feels good.
Noted.
I also think many of the Wiggins haters just sat this one out.
Dieng was awesome last night btw. I actually think we move the ball better when he's on the court in part because we don't insist on running the offense through our bigs when he's out there. The ball gets to both sides of the court. I would argue in part that that's why Wiggins had a good night (he's mostly weekside in our standard set).
CoolBreeze44 wrote:i get that it's the holidays, but this board is funny. There is so much more activity after a disappointing loss than a surprising win. It must be true, losing hurts a lot more than winning feels good.
Noted.
I also think many of the Wiggins haters just sat this one out.
Dieng was awesome last night btw. I actually think we move the ball better when he's on the court in part because we don't insist on running the offense through our bigs when he's out there. The ball gets to both sides of the court. I would argue in part that that's why Wiggins had a good night (he's mostly weekside in our standard set).
The only thing that brings in more traffic than a twolf loss is a twolf loss that coincides with a wiggins bad game.
And agree about dieng. He gets a lot of flack, but he was very good last night.
The team is better with Tyus at PG. Two reasons for that. First and foremost, Tyus is much better than Teague or Rose at moving and sharing the ball. He's a natural PG who knows instinctively how to run an offense and make his teammates better. Note that Wiggins was better offensively when Rubio ran the offense. Second, he's a better team defender than the other two PG. He's not super quick or big, but he has great instincts and quick hands.
Teague's a good player, but he's a poor fit for this team. I'm hoping there's a team that will give us value for Teague at the Feb. deadline. It would have to be a contender that loses their PG to an injury. For example, if Lowry went down with an injury. I could see them giving up a future 1st for Teague. Not sure what the salary match would be.
