thedoper wrote:Derrick Rose is our best player right now. Imagine someone predicting that 3 years ago. Depressing.
Since you mention Rose...I was thinking about how...(ok it's too early) it's possible Rose is the vet guy that ends up turning around this franchise and not Butler. What if he can stay mostly healthy and becomes a good player for this team as a starter or 6th man maybe a Manu type (but not as good of a defender but really important). What if he has turned around his life and now is a good dude and good leader? What if he takes less money to stay here and try and help a team win etc? These are a lot of ifs and it's still early but could he be the guy that takes less money players hard lifts up guys and shows he wants to win? It could be quite the story. It's clear he cares when he is out there.
This is all still a stretch. There are questions about Rose the person. He has said some weird stuff at times and while ago think he meant is a different way than it came out it didn't sounds good. Maybe he and Glen Taylor should go to some communication workshops together or something. Lol staying healthy is a massive question mark. Can Rose keep playing well especially hitting a decent clip of 3's? Lots of ifs and time will tell. I'd say that at this point people tend to cheer for his success more than they expected to and that includes myself who has believed there was something worthwhile there if he was just healthy. He is certainly exceeding my expectations on and off the floor.
I'm all for it. He definitely has given our team a lift and him on the bench was the proper role. He's a much more cerebral player than I would have expected too. But the question marks are gigantic and chances are if wolves history is to be believed this will go as poorly as possible.
thedoper wrote:Derrick Rose is our best player right now. Imagine someone predicting that 3 years ago. Depressing.
Since you mention Rose...I was thinking about how...(ok it's too early) it's possible Rose is the vet guy that ends up turning around this franchise and not Butler. What if he can stay mostly healthy and becomes a good player for this team as a starter or 6th man maybe a Manu type (but not as good of a defender but really important). What if he has turned around his life and now is a good dude and good leader? What if he takes less money to stay here and try and help a team win etc? These are a lot of ifs and it's still early but could he be the guy that takes less money players hard lifts up guys and shows he wants to win? It could be quite the story. It's clear he cares when he is out there.
This is all still a stretch. There are questions about Rose the person. He has said some weird stuff at times and while ago think he meant is a different way than it came out it didn't sounds good. Maybe he and Glen Taylor should go to some communication workshops together or something. Lol staying healthy is a massive question mark. Can Rose keep playing well especially hitting a decent clip of 3's? Lots of ifs and time will tell. I'd say that at this point people tend to cheer for his success more than they expected to and that includes myself who has believed there was something worthwhile there if he was just healthy. He is certainly exceeding my expectations on and off the floor.
I'm all for it. He definitely has given our team a lift and him on the bench was the proper role. He's a much more cerebral player than I would have expected too. But the question marks are gigantic and chances are if wolves history is to be believed this will go as poorly as possible.
Usually is the 2nd contract that we screw up. Two classic examples are Billups and Hudson. Thibs avoided that this summer getting him done with that immediate vet min deal but now if things go pretty good...do we end up overpaying Rose or even paying him a decent contract...only for him to be chronically injured? Yep that sounds about right.
One of the reasons why I think Wiggins and Towns are struggling is they looks to score the basketball instead of respond to the whole situation they are being presented with. Wiggins is turning himself into something resembling Al Jefferson. Al didn't draw many fouls despite being a terrific offer ice player because he was so good at figuring out ways to actually get the ball into the basket he didn't look for contact. The way Al played I think was fine for the most part but at the height of his game he was VERY good. Wiggins does all these laying up the ball around the rim type things now and while I think it's a positive he is working on those things and when he gets there the finishes do work a lot he needs to be attacking more and looking for contact more which also means dunking on people or just flat out finishing plays with that. He needs to try and draw fouls on guys if they are going to be slapping the ball away from him on these drives. Harden drives me nuts at times with the way he draws fouls BUT very good offensive players even in today's game have guys that get physical with you to try and defend them. You have to find ways to counter that. If you have a guy that has their hands all over you on the perimeter you need to find a way to make the official make a call and punish those guys for being to aggressive.
Towns on the other hand sometimes forces his will physically too much in the post. He isn't big and strong enough to do that at times and he lets guys frustrate him. He seems like his plan is either gonthrough the guy or get some sort of long 2. It feels like he needs to work more on a face up game and attack guys more off the dribble. Personally I don't know if the post ups matter all that much for him to score. I'm more interested in him getting some of those to force the defense to react. They should be looking at matchups like when Kuzma was guarding him though. At this point I'd like to see him be more of a perimeter oriented guy and have him on the move and in pick and roll plays. I think the way Towns unlocks his next level of offense is ball handling. That would give him a face up game that would open up everything else. He is a good ball handler for his size etc but I think when he is being guarded by smaller players it's not good enough and he isn't so quick that he can just blow past people. He needs more handle and deception. He can then have another tool for punishing guys who put their hands all over him. There is a GIF on twitter saying how Towns was so soft brig guards by Chandler...who often had 2 hands on him during the clip which you aren't supposed to be able to do. Make Chandler guard you at the 3 point line. There is basically zero reason to try and post him up.
