Cam: Should the Timberwolves sign Jason Thompson?
Re: Cam: Should the Timberwolves sign Jason Thompson?
Yes. I would like to see us sign him. He is better than payne and rudez.
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Re: Cam: Should the Timberwolves sign Jason Thompson?
Camden0916 wrote:khans2k5 wrote:Depends on the goal of the organization. He's worth signing to get a competent body in the frontcourt if we're trying to close out the year well, but that results in a worse pick in an already weak draft when we have no shot at the playoffs. You really could go either way.
Jason Thompson isn't bringing us more wins this year. Definitely not enough to decrease the value of our pick. He's helping the on-court product with rebounding, defense and competent veteran play. You do this move to help the development of the young guys, IMO. He's better than Payne and Rudez by a mile and that's all you can ask for right now.
The difference between Thompson and Belly/Payne right now is worth a couple wins. Swapping the minutes of two incompetent players for a competent one is a significant upgrade to a bad bench unit which is dragging this team down. We have two competent frontcourt players now. Going to 3 is a big enough upgrade to squeak a few wins in my opinion.
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Re: Cam: Should the Timberwolves sign Jason Thompson?
All the losing is driving you people crazy? How is JT eating up minutes somehow a good idea or worth it?
I'd play Payne or Rudez over bringing in JT or just a thought here......scour the D-League for higher potential players. If we added JT and played him 20mins a game what do you think he averages? I am guessing 7 points 7 boards at this stage of his career.
Just check out his stats http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/t/thompja02.html
I've had farts that were more entertaining than this possible move.
I'd play Payne or Rudez over bringing in JT or just a thought here......scour the D-League for higher potential players. If we added JT and played him 20mins a game what do you think he averages? I am guessing 7 points 7 boards at this stage of his career.
Just check out his stats http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/t/thompja02.html
I've had farts that were more entertaining than this possible move.
Re: Cam: Should the Timberwolves sign Jason Thompson?
Tactical unit wrote:All the losing is driving you people crazy? How is JT eating up minutes somehow a good idea or worth it?
I'd play Payne or Rudez over bringing in JT or just a thought here......scour the D-League for higher potential players. If we added JT and played him 20mins a game what do you think he averages? I am guessing 7 points 7 boards at this stage of his career.
Just check out his stats http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/t/thompja02.html
I've had farts that were more entertaining than this possible move.
If he had 7 and 7 in 20mpg that would honestly be pretty good. I doubt the Wolves will sign him (there will be better offers from other teams) but if they did it would be an upgrade that would help players around him compared to Payne and Rudez and probably Bjelica although I don't really want to see him getting more minutes than Bjelica when he is healthy because I want to see him get chances to play.
Now to your point of bringing in a d-league guy compared to JT sure I love that idea too honestly I always like trying to find that next helpful player even if it ends up being just a Steimsma type (he would actually be good for this team right now) compared to really hitting the jackpot with a Hassan Whiteside level player.
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Re: Cam: Should the Timberwolves sign Jason Thompson?
http://www.sportingnews.com/list/4693243-d-league-call-up-jimmer-fredette-vincent-hunter-ronald-roberts
This article discusses 6 d-league players deserving of a call up. One is Jimmer Fredette who the Knicks just signed. Two others mentioned are Raph Putney and Vincent Hunter who I would like to see get ten day contracts here. Both are bigs.
This article discusses 6 d-league players deserving of a call up. One is Jimmer Fredette who the Knicks just signed. Two others mentioned are Raph Putney and Vincent Hunter who I would like to see get ten day contracts here. Both are bigs.
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Re: Cam: Should the Timberwolves sign Jason Thompson?
Tactical unit wrote:All the losing is driving you people crazy? How is JT eating up minutes somehow a good idea or worth it?
I'd play Payne or Rudez over bringing in JT or just a thought here......scour the D-League for higher potential players. If we added JT and played him 20mins a game what do you think he averages? I am guessing 7 points 7 boards at this stage of his career.
Just check out his stats http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/t/thompja02.html
I've had farts that were more entertaining than this possible move.
We've been playing Rudez and Payne and the result is poor basketball play from the PF position. We have a chance to completely upgrade from them to Thompson and we should do just that.
Also, you and TeamRicky keep saying we should scour the D-League for these so-called players with high potential. Here's what I don't like about that... It's the D-League. Those guys are there because they aren't good enough to be in the NBA. They're there to try and develop, thus the league's name, into good enough players to interest NBA teams. Sorry to break this to the forum, but Adreian Payne practically dominated down there in his three game stint this year. 26.33 PPG, 9.33 RPG, 4.33 APG, 2.33 SPG. You can also look at the production of Tyus Jones and Shabazz Muhammad in the D-League to see how different it is there compared to the NBA.
So, these "high" potential players that you want the Wolves to scoop up are projects at very best. They're less of a guaranteed thing than Adreian Payne. The Wolves have a poor history of developing first rounders, but we're supposed to cash in on the one in a million chance of pulling a D-Leaguer out of thin air and turning him into an NBA caliber player? I don't buy it. This team needs more veterans that can still play. Thompson would be a very solid pickup.
(7 & 7 with good defense in 20 MPG is pretty damn solid, FYI.)
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Re: Cam: Should the Timberwolves sign Jason Thompson?
Cam, the guys I keep mentioning have better stats than Payne did in his brief stint in the D-League. Former D-Leaguers include Hassan Whiteside, Danny Green, Jeremy Lin, James Johnson, Terrence Jones, Amir Johnson, Gerald Green, Kendall Marshall, Tyler Johnson, Langston Galloway, Shelvin Mack (Utah's new starting pg), Donald Sloan (Nets starting pg), James Michael McAdoo and CJ Watson. Even Rudy Gobert, Khris Middleton, Jae Crowder, Demarre Carroll, Avery Bradley, CJ McCollum, Reggie Jackson, Marcin Gortat, Eric Bledsoe, Dennis Schroder, Chris Andersen, Patty Mills, Shaun Livingston and Lou Williams did short stints in the D-League
Re: Cam: Should the Timberwolves sign Jason Thompson?
TeamRicky wrote:Cam, the guys I keep mentioning have better stats than Payne did in his brief stint in the D-League. Former D-Leaguers include Hassan Whiteside, Danny Green, Jeremy Lin, James Johnson, Terrence Jones, Amir Johnson, Gerald Green, Kendall Marshall, Tyler Johnson, Langston Galloway, Shelvin Mack (Utah's new starting pg), Donald Sloan (Nets starting pg), James Michael McAdoo and CJ Watson. Even Rudy Gobert, Khris Middleton, Jae Crowder, Demarre Carroll, Avery Bradley, CJ McCollum, Reggie Jackson, Marcin Gortat, Eric Bledsoe, Dennis Schroder, Chris Andersen, Patty Mills, Shaun Livingston and Lou Williams did short stints in the D-League
But most of the guys that you have listed have not ever been available even though they have played in D-league. Their NBA team have had them under contract and they have played there just for development purpose. If you list only guys that have not been under contract and are getting currently rotation minutes in NBA, list is much shorter: Hassan Whiteside, Danny Green, Gerald Green, James Johnson, Tyler Johnson, Langston Galloway, Shelvin Mack, Donald Sloan, C.J. Watson and Jeremy Lin. So I think that the chances for finding a player worth of rotation minutes from D-league are worse than finding that from NBA players that has been waived by other team.
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Re: Cam: Should the Timberwolves sign Jason Thompson?
Mikkeman wrote:TeamRicky wrote:Cam, the guys I keep mentioning have better stats than Payne did in his brief stint in the D-League. Former D-Leaguers include Hassan Whiteside, Danny Green, Jeremy Lin, James Johnson, Terrence Jones, Amir Johnson, Gerald Green, Kendall Marshall, Tyler Johnson, Langston Galloway, Shelvin Mack (Utah's new starting pg), Donald Sloan (Nets starting pg), James Michael McAdoo and CJ Watson. Even Rudy Gobert, Khris Middleton, Jae Crowder, Demarre Carroll, Avery Bradley, CJ McCollum, Reggie Jackson, Marcin Gortat, Eric Bledsoe, Dennis Schroder, Chris Andersen, Patty Mills, Shaun Livingston and Lou Williams did short stints in the D-League
But most of the guys that you have listed have not ever been available even though they have played in D-league. Their NBA team have had them under contract and they have played there just for development purpose. If you list only guys that have not been under contract and are getting currently rotation minutes in NBA, list is much shorter: Hassan Whiteside, Danny Green, Gerald Green, James Johnson, Tyler Johnson, Langston Galloway, Shelvin Mack, Donald Sloan, C.J. Watson and Jeremy Lin. So I think that the chances for finding a player worth of rotation minutes from D-league are worse than finding that from NBA players that has been waived by other team.
We aren't getting much worthwhile from our spots 9-15 anyway, so even if the odds are against it, why not take a free look at a young guy who is putting up very nice stats on both sides of the ball (Putney, Hunter, Ashley all recently came out of college and were on the D-League all star team) and see how they adapt to the NBA. Our bench can't get any worse, can it? The odds are pretty stacked against a guy like Jason Thompson who will be 30 in July has any long term value on the club too. And in fact, it may be more likely that Thompson has negative value in that if he helped us get more wins he could hurt our draft position and increase the odds of Sammitch returning. I'm not opposed to signing Thompson in the offseason, but this is the time of the year when many teams take advantage of the 10 day contract rule and start looking at D-League players like New York is doing with Jimmer
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Re: Cam: Should the Timberwolves sign Jason Thompson?
TeamRicky wrote:Mikkeman wrote:TeamRicky wrote:Cam, the guys I keep mentioning have better stats than Payne did in his brief stint in the D-League. Former D-Leaguers include Hassan Whiteside, Danny Green, Jeremy Lin, James Johnson, Terrence Jones, Amir Johnson, Gerald Green, Kendall Marshall, Tyler Johnson, Langston Galloway, Shelvin Mack (Utah's new starting pg), Donald Sloan (Nets starting pg), James Michael McAdoo and CJ Watson. Even Rudy Gobert, Khris Middleton, Jae Crowder, Demarre Carroll, Avery Bradley, CJ McCollum, Reggie Jackson, Marcin Gortat, Eric Bledsoe, Dennis Schroder, Chris Andersen, Patty Mills, Shaun Livingston and Lou Williams did short stints in the D-League
But most of the guys that you have listed have not ever been available even though they have played in D-league. Their NBA team have had them under contract and they have played there just for development purpose. If you list only guys that have not been under contract and are getting currently rotation minutes in NBA, list is much shorter: Hassan Whiteside, Danny Green, Gerald Green, James Johnson, Tyler Johnson, Langston Galloway, Shelvin Mack, Donald Sloan, C.J. Watson and Jeremy Lin. So I think that the chances for finding a player worth of rotation minutes from D-league are worse than finding that from NBA players that has been waived by other team.
We aren't getting much worthwhile from our spots 9-15 anyway, so even if the odds are against it, why not take a free look at a young guy who is putting up very nice stats on both sides of the ball (Putney, Hunter, Ashley all recently came out of college and were on the D-League all star team) and see how they adapt to the NBA. Our bench can't get any worse, can it? The odds are pretty stacked that a guy like Jason Thompson who will be 30 in July has any long term value on the club too. And in fact, it may be more likely that Thompson has negative value in that if he helped us get more wins he could hurt our draft position and increase the odds of Sammitch returning.
Because we don't have roster spots to just add whoever the hell we want. We would have to buy out players to accommodate for these prayer chances. Why? Why would Glenn buy out players just so he can add d-leaguer's to the roster to see if they can play? If he's gonna buy someone out it's going to be to add a guy back who can play in the NBA. He's not going to do it so we can host tryouts for a bunch of different guys on 10 day contracts.