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Re: Luc as trade bait
Posted: Tue Feb 11, 2014 8:06 pm
by KiwiMatt
What about LMAM to the LA Clippers for Jared Dudley?
Almost identical contracts and the Clippers have made noise about moving Dudley. Dudley would give us a scorer off the bench who could start while Martin's out. LMAM gives the Clippers a guy who can shut down Kevin Durantula come playoffs (if their paths cross)
Re: Luc as trade bait
Posted: Tue Feb 11, 2014 8:08 pm
by KiwiMatt
Then Barea and Cunningham for Andre Miller and Anthony Randolph:
Rubio / Miller / Price
Martin / Budinger / Shved
Brewer / Dudley / Muhammad
Love / Randolph / Hummel
Pekovic / Turiaf / Dieng
On paper it looks like a significant upgrade of our second unit.
Re: Luc as trade bait
Posted: Tue Feb 11, 2014 8:25 pm
by worldK
Camden wrote:worldK wrote:Camden wrote:It's simple. We'll ship Mbah a Moute to Golden State for Harrison Barnes. Everyone wins. :thumb:
Golden state would never do that. They have iggy as their premiere wing defender. They see barnes as a defender as well and a guy who can contribute offensively as well. Luc brings nothing to them but additional salary.
I thought the thumbs up face was clear that I was kidding lol. My fault worldK. Wishful thinking all the way with that trade.
My bad cam. Miss your sarcasm there. But seriously, barnes is a guy that would really help us. We just have nothing to offer outside of love/rubio/pek.
What we should do is try to unload martin. Trade him for an expiring. Trade him for butler or marvin williams or richard jefferson. If we could package him along with jj or luc for richard jefferson then we should pull the trigger on that deal.
Re: Luc as trade bait
Posted: Tue Feb 11, 2014 9:50 pm
by quincy33 [enjin:7934959]
lol@ these pipe dream trades.
Re: Luc as trade bait
Posted: Tue Feb 11, 2014 10:23 pm
by ace [enjin:6598567]
longstrangetrip wrote:CoolBreeze44 wrote:I'd have a hard time believing that a part-time rotation guy would bring much in return. I hear what you're saying about his potential impact on a playoff team, but would you give up much for him? I know I wouldn't for the few minutes he'd be worth each game.
I don't know what they could offer, but Indiana could potentially be trying to stop Lebron in the East final and Durant in the championship. Since they may have home court advantage the entire playoffs and only need to win at home, they might overpay for a stopper who could limit Lebron/Durant's effectiveness after the Pacers jump off to leads at home. Just playing here. Most trade threads offer up the usual trash: JJ, Dante, Shved,etc, but we know nobody really wants those guys. I can see Zgoda's point that Luc is the best asset we have that we would be willing to part with.
They have Paul George for that.
Re: Luc as trade bait
Posted: Tue Feb 11, 2014 10:25 pm
by kms789 [enjin:6694798]
I said at the time that the Mbah a Moute trade was a bad one, not because he's a bad player, but because we already have an incredibly similar player in Dante Cunningham.
Nothing Flip has done so far suggests he is a real bright guy. If you know Derrick Williams won't be a big part of the rotation, don't extend him for $6mil and kill his trade value! If you're still going to trade him, don't trade him for a guy that doesn't help the team at all.
If they do trade Mbah a Moute a couple months after acquiring him, it just reinforces that Flip doesn't know what he's doing.
Re: Luc as trade bait
Posted: Wed Feb 12, 2014 8:48 am
by JasonIsDaMan [enjin:7981157]
quincy33 wrote:lol@ these pipe dream trades.
Of course DEN is going to trade an expiring like Miller (T/O) for a guy who is worse AND guaranteed money next. Why do you hate the Wolves, and more importantly, why do you hate America?
Re: Luc as trade bait
Posted: Wed Feb 12, 2014 9:01 am
by JasonIsDaMan [enjin:7981157]
longstrangetrip wrote:CoolBreeze44 wrote:I'd have a hard time believing that a part-time rotation guy would bring much in return. I hear what you're saying about his potential impact on a playoff team, but would you give up much for him? I know I wouldn't for the few minutes he'd be worth each game.
I don't know what they could offer, but Indiana could potentially be trying to stop Lebron in the East final and Durant in the championship. Since they may have home court advantage the entire playoffs and only need to win at home, they might overpay for a stopper who could limit Lebron/Durant's effectiveness after the Pacers jump off to leads at home. Just playing here. Most trade threads offer up the usual trash: JJ, Dante, Shved,etc, but we know nobody really wants those guys. I can see Zgoda's point that Luc is the best asset we have that we would be willing to part with.
So I'm trying to figure out exactly what IND does here. LRMaM for Mahimi/Pick? What kind of pick? Is that really the best MIN can do?
I still think MIN's best case scenario for THIS deadline is either something where they use their expirings/seconds get Cole/Anderson from MIA or McLemore/McCallum from SAC, and both of those deals would be happening for very different reasons. Unless someone makes a Godfather offer for Blonde Ricky. Every other Wolf is either overpaid or a winning piece.
Re: Luc as trade bait
Posted: Wed Feb 12, 2014 9:22 am
by bleedspeed
LRMaM would be nice to move, but he can backup SF/PF. Unless we can get an expiring I would rather trade Budinger/Martin/Brewer. I still think the Cavs would have done Martin for Waiters if we would have offered it.