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SJM --

I'm definitely not giving Adelman a pass. I just don't see him as the primary problem. He didn't want Price or Shabazz. I don't think he was lobbying to sign Brewer. He preferred Luke over JJ. And in any event, the front office is accountable for the roster. So regardless of what Adelman wanted, Kahn and Flip are responsible for the lack of, and poor mix of, talent on this roster.

As for the head coaching position, I'm a firm believer that even at the professional level, the players eventually take on the personality and attitude of their head coach. The Bulls and Spurs are two great examples. That's why I'd love to see us hire Hollins -- a tough, defensive-minded guy who also has a record of success as an NBA head coach. I like Hoiberg, but I'm not sure he'd be the right choice. I do agree that Adelman should be replaced after this season.

Sjm
You have bring up the 'list' adelman supposedly gave kahn multiple times.i dont remember reading about it, care to elaborate?

Lip, we have JJ instead of Luke (which I am happy about) because we needed to move one to get Adelman's guy (Martin). The poor mix of talent is completely on Flip. Kahn left Love, Ricky, and JJ. Flip re-signed Pek and Bud, and then moved Luke to get Martin and signed Brewer. That was a lot of salary that could have been used to completely change the mix on this team.

I would love to give Hollins a try, but unfortunately I can't see Flip hiring him. Flip is more likely to hire someone he can control, and that isn't Hollins.

World, Adelman gave Kahn a list after his first season that contained the guys he wanted shipped out. I am sure Lip must know about this.

A lot of despair on this board and I can understand why...it's painful to blow an 18 point load and lose by double digits. I'm not feeling it though. As much as I hated last night's collapse, I have enjoyed watching this team the past 4 games as much as I can remember in a long time. Love has been a monster offensively, and also displayed some defense that I didn't think he was capable of. Until the collapse last night, Ricky has been the Ricky I hoped he could be when we drafted him...playing with joy and a flair few point guards can match, and consistently beating his defender off the dribble.

I do think Adelman is a major part of the problem. He seems completely uninvolved. As Bayou pointed out in his Pelicans' game report, he spends little time coaching even during time outs. His sour demeanor on the bench has to have an impact on his team. He displays no joy when they are playing like they did in the first half yesterday, but is quick to scowl when a player screws up. I see enough talent on this club that I think they could replicate a Phoenix Hornacek scenario, if they could bring in a coach that could bring out the best in them. Dragic is a marvelous player, but can anyone seriously make a case that Phoenix is more talented overall than the Wolves are?

That said, I don't see much point in firing him unless we had a bead on a guy who we need to bring in right now or risk someone else hiring him. He's hurting us, but he's also a guy who has earned respect in this league. He's one of the good guys, and not the kind of coach who gets fired. Frankly, I think his wife's situation has a lot to do with his poor coaching, and I feel some compassion for him about that. I like the idea of bringing in a guy like Hollins, but I would be happy if they negotiated with him now but brought him in to start next year. This year is lost anyway. I'm going to relax and enjoy the magic moments like the 3 1/2 games before last night's collapse, and dream about the renaissance a new coach is going to bring.

What better reason to have Hollins implement his schemes now so that the team next year will be that more comfortable? Chemistry is key and I think we'd easily be better for it to bring in a new coach now if we wanted to rather than wait. Plus, as we've all seen in sports, head coaching changes can sometimes spark a team to go on a big time run. Wouldn't it be beneficial to see this team finish the last 20 games on a big time run, have the system/coach in place going into next year and have a feel for the product on the court?

Just some thoughts. This goes out the window if Flip wants to bring in a college coach or a guy without experience.

Camden wrote:What better reason to have Hollins implement his schemes now so that the team next year will be that more comfortable? Chemistry is key and I think we'd easily be better for it to bring in a new coach now if we wanted to rather than wait. Plus, as we've all seen in sports, head coaching changes can sometimes spark a team to go on a big time run. Wouldn't it be beneficial to see this team finish the last 20 games on a big time run, have the system/coach in place going into next year and have a feel for the product on the court?

Just some thoughts. This goes out the window if Flip wants to bring in a college coach or a guy without experience.

Kevin Love loves adelman. You'd honestly fire him now and bring in a college coach. How do you make Love ok with that?

Flip needs to hire me. I have the vision and creativity to make this happen.

Here is my plan.
1. Trade for Martin for Waiters. He will work off the ball with Rubio.
2. Trade Pekovic for Perkins, Lamb, and Adams.
3. Dump Budinger and LRMM for shorter contracts Maybe even trade down in the first round to take them off our books.
4. Use new cap space to sign players to fill out bench - Contracts would be 2-3M each for 3 years 3rd year is a team option for double first and second or 500k buyout.

alexftbl8181 wrote:

Camden wrote:What better reason to have Hollins implement his schemes now so that the team next year will be that more comfortable? Chemistry is key and I think we'd easily be better for it to bring in a new coach now if we wanted to rather than wait. Plus, as we've all seen in sports, head coaching changes can sometimes spark a team to go on a big time run. Wouldn't it be beneficial to see this team finish the last 20 games on a big time run, have the system/coach in place going into next year and have a feel for the product on the court?

Just some thoughts. This goes out the window if Flip wants to bring in a college coach or a guy without experience.

Kevin Love loves adelman. You'd honestly fire him now and bring in a college coach. How do you make Love ok with that?

... Read again, maybe? I talked about bringing in Hollins. Then I even said in that post I wouldn't fire Adelman this year to bring in a guy without HC experience. No worries, though. Probably just skimmed the post.

bleedspeed177 wrote:Flip needs to hire me. I have the vision and creativity to make this happen.

Here is my plan.
1. Trade for Martin for Waiters. He will work off the ball with Rubio.
2. Trade Pekovic for Perkins, Lamb, and Adams.
3. Dump Budinger and LRMM for shorter contracts Maybe even trade down in the first round to take them off our books.

If im flip, Im trying to find as many shooters as I can. As crazy as it sounds, the wolves are still haven't built a proper team around Rubios skills. Trade Brewer for a shooter, Kyle Korver? Anthony Marrow?

Second thing is finding a proper backup pg. JJ is not a pg. The offense looks the worst when he's running the show.


So I'd like to see

Rubio
Martin
sharp shooting 3
Love
Pek


Backup Pg who can run an offense
Bud
Luc
Dante
Turiaf
Deing
Another shooter through the draft?

Don't see anything in Bazz

Camden wrote:

alexftbl8181 wrote:

Camden wrote:What better reason to have Hollins implement his schemes now so that the team next year will be that more comfortable? Chemistry is key and I think we'd easily be better for it to bring in a new coach now if we wanted to rather than wait. Plus, as we've all seen in sports, head coaching changes can sometimes spark a team to go on a big time run. Wouldn't it be beneficial to see this team finish the last 20 games on a big time run, have the system/coach in place going into next year and have a feel for the product on the court?

Just some thoughts. This goes out the window if Flip wants to bring in a college coach or a guy without experience.

Kevin Love loves adelman. You'd honestly fire him now and bring in a college coach. How do you make Love ok with that?

... Read again, maybe? I talked about bringing in Hollins. Then I even said in that post I wouldn't fire Adelman this year to bring in a guy without HC experience. No worries, though. Probably just skimmed the post.

firing adelman would piss love off big time. bottom line