Rubio Extension?

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TheGrey08
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Rubio also wants to be here and is very much team oriented. We shouldn't underestimate that. Hey may not be one to push for every dime he can get in order to make his team better overall.
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Curry needs to be thrown out of any comparison. He would have gotten more but he kept rolling his ankle on the way to the negotiation table. I imagine Rubio will get a similar deal around Lawson and Holiday in the 10-12 range.
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4 year 50m contract is what I am predicting for rubios new deal should he sign an extention. No way he takes less than the 12m we gave pek and that contract is a little more than what lawson,holiday, rondo and curry got and same as parker.

I understand that a lot of us wants to see rubio sign for 10m max but its not going to happen. Lip pretty much sums up why in his post. Il be okay with a 4yr 50m deal for rubio.
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And for whatever it's worth, the rise in the salary cap should be considered just a much as what other players have gotten. 12 million for Ty Lawson and the nuggets in 2012-2013 is more than what 13.5 million would be for Ricky % wise if you project the cap at about a 4.5% increase going forward, somewhere around 65 million. So if Ricky signs for 10-12 million he'd be starting out 3-5% lower than what Lawson's extension was.
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I was initially hoping Lowry wouldn't end up with the Rockets because I thought it might discourage or kill their interest in Love. But I'm now thinking that getting Lowry could prompt them to make better offers for Love since they might feel more comfortable giving up a player like Beverley as part of the package.
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I don't believe that this regime will give Ricky 4/50 - there are too many naysayers in and around the front office that are very critical of his speed relative to 90% of the pg's in the league - You can't coach speed and hops so the ceiling doesn't warrant 4/50.
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leado01 wrote:I don't believe that this regime will give Ricky 4/50 - there are too many naysayers in and around the front office that are very critical of his speed relative to 90% of the pg's in the league - You can't coach speed and hops so the ceiling doesn't warrant 4/50.


Thats the first time ive heard this lead. Can anyone verify this?

I stand by my prediction of 4rs/50m deal for rubio. A goodwill offer for him as its more than lawson,curry,holiday,rondo got in their first extentions and same with parker's current salary.
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I think it's beyond ridiculous that anyone would suggest we should offer Ricky $6-8 million. If we do that, then I'll personally tell Ricky he should leave for his own good. This isn't 1994, this is 2014, and you don't lowball the guy who is the leader, sets the pace, has the highest potential, and makes the game flow every time the ball is in his hands. Right now, even if Ricky never improves, he's far superior to a $7 million player.

I agree with world and lip. Like Lip said, Rubio's value is well beyond his numbers. Rubio does a TON of the little things that lead to wins such as keeping an offense going, playing great help defense, leading, full effort, etc. You can argue that Rubio isn't a max player right now but his agent would be insulted if we came at him with a $6-8 million offer, even if that was the starting point.

My prediction? He gets $12-14 million/yr, and we SHOULD pay him if that's what it costs. Rubio makes Pek a $12 mil player, not visa versa. That's the type of effect that Rubio has on his teammates. Remember Derrick Williams? Remember how worthless he was when Rubio wasn't on the floor, yet somehow every time Rubio was on the floor with him, he'd show glimpses? That's what Rubio does.

So unless you think he's JJ Barea or Luke Ridnour level, you better not try to pay him like it.
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Hockey is right. Flip would have to be a complete idiot to offer Rubio only $8-9 million a year. I suspect that Ricky's agent will push hard for the max 5-year deal. I don't see Ricky's agent taking less than 4 years/$50 million, which is what Pek got on an annual basis.

I don't think the Wolves can afford to lose Ricky. It's not just his impact on games and remaining upside. He's the only player other than Love with any star power and we're about to lose Love. More specifically, he's the only player we have who can help attract other players. This franchise is becoming increasingly "small-town" and parochial with Flip, his son and the old gang of Lowe and Mitchell together again as our coaching staff. Against that backdrop, losing Love and Rubio in the span of two years would be more than this franchise can bear. With Love gone, the Wolves will have the money to give Ricky a 4 year/$50 million deal. This is no time to hold back.
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lip, I agree. But I think you meant to type "I don't" think (beginning of the 2nd paragraph)
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