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Re: Would you do this trade?
Posted: Wed Mar 12, 2014 2:50 pm
by thedoper
Is that you Mchale?
Re: Would you do this trade?
Posted: Wed Mar 12, 2014 4:33 pm
by khans2k5 [enjin:6608728]
I'd do the trade if instead of us giving them a first, we swap firsts (they have the Knicks first in this year's draft that is in the top 10 right now and they owe their first or the Knicks first to Orlando pending which one is lower). Then we jump into the top ten in the draft. McGee is overpaid and Pek fits what Shaw would like to do in running a slower pace, so that is where the pick swap evens out the deal. Wilson Chandler would be the kind of solid two-way starting 3 that would fit great with the starting unit. He's only giving up a 12.2 PER to opposing 3's and he is a better 3 point shooter than Corey overall. I'd ditch Arthur all-together as the salaries pretty much match with a Pek/Brewer for McGee/Chandler. They get the 1st and 3rd best players in the trade and we get the better pick in the draft. In Javale's last season that he played over 21 MPG's, he averaged 12 points, 9 boards and 2.5 blocks per game. That's exactly what we need from the starting C next to Love.
So we get a defensive C whose length fits much better next to Love, a two-way starting SF and a top 10 pick in a loaded draft. I think that is pretty fair value for a top 10 starting C who also can't stay healthy, an energy guy off the bench who has played decent in starters minutes and a later lottery pick. McGee also comes off the books two years sooner than Pek so we save long-term salary. We have to take a risk somewhere to get better. We're not just a bench tweak away from being a contender. Everyone (including myself) uses Portland as an example and they have dropped all the way down to the 5 seed and aren't in contender status anymore.
Ricky/Anybody other than JJ
Martin/Gary Harris
Chandler/Bazz/Bud
Love/DC
McGee/Turiaf/Dieng
I think at the very least that team has more balance and defensive potential than the one we have now. The starting lineup's problem isn't the ability to score. As long as Love and Martin are on the floor, they can score just fine. The problem is they can't stop anyone and this would hopefully help in that department.
Re: Would you do this trade?
Posted: Wed Mar 12, 2014 6:50 pm
by Papalrep
Prediction - Love would end up taking a swing at McGee. Then he would leave. We build on the three - Pek, Love, Rubio. It will take time. This is a move that would backfire.
Re: Would you do this trade?
Posted: Thu Mar 13, 2014 12:14 am
by The Rage Monster [enjin:8010341]
papalrep wrote:Prediction - Love would end up taking a swing at McGee. Then he would leave. We build on the three - Pek, Love, Rubio. It will take time. This is a move that would backfire.
Unfortunately we don't have time, I think we have until the trade deadline to either be a contending team or to trade Love, I don't think he sticks around if our record is like this again. In my opinion it is foolish to run out a similar team next year expecting dramatically different results.
Re: Would you do this trade?
Posted: Thu Mar 13, 2014 6:35 am
by Camden [enjin:6601484]
The Rage Monster wrote:papalrep wrote:Prediction - Love would end up taking a swing at McGee. Then he would leave. We build on the three - Pek, Love, Rubio. It will take time. This is a move that would backfire.
Unfortunately we don't have time, I think we have until the trade deadline to either be a contending team or to trade Love, I don't think he sticks around if our record is like this again. In my opinion it is foolish to run out a similar team next year expecting dramatically different results.
Fix the bench and this is a different team. Making a big trade for the sake of making one is stupid.
Re: Would you do this trade?
Posted: Thu Mar 13, 2014 8:55 am
by AbeVigodaLive
Camden wrote:The Rage Monster wrote:papalrep wrote:Prediction - Love would end up taking a swing at McGee. Then he would leave. We build on the three - Pek, Love, Rubio. It will take time. This is a move that would backfire.
Unfortunately we don't have time, I think we have until the trade deadline to either be a contending team or to trade Love, I don't think he sticks around if our record is like this again. In my opinion it is foolish to run out a similar team next year expecting dramatically different results.
Fix the bench and this is a different team. Making a big trade for the sake of making one is stupid.
Counting on the perpetually, legendarily stupid Javale McGee to be THE guy to swing the fortunes of an entire franchise... well, that would be the definition of...