Thibs Out in NY

[Monster]

The more I think about it the more I think it don't know if Thibs is the problem or the answer. There are other vet coaches that I feel somewhat the same way about. Rivers in Milwaukee, Bud seemed to fail with the Suns. I think Vogel is actually a good coach and maybe a better/safer hire than some other guys but is he really that guy that can take you to the top? Maybe a good coach that doesn't screw anything up might be the right guy for the knicks. What young guy or assistant could they hire? They need to somehow improve their bench. Can they hire a coach that a couple players would be more interested in signing there because they think they will have an opportunity to play? Idk but I would think in general that coaching job would have to be pretty attractive.

[KG4Ever]

The more I think about it the more I think it don't know if Thibs is the problem or the answer. There are other vet coaches that I feel somewhat the same way about. Rivers in Milwaukee, Bud seemed to fail with the Suns. I think Vogel is actually a good coach and maybe a better/safer hire than some other guys but is he really that guy that can take you to the top? Maybe a good coach that doesn't screw anything up might be the right guy for the knicks. What young guy or assistant could they hire? They need to somehow improve their bench. Can they hire a coach that a couple players would be more interested in signing there because they think they will have an opportunity to play? Idk but I would think in general that coaching job would have to be pretty attractive.

Well, Thibs is the answer. The question is the coach that players would least like to play for. Thibs is a buzzkill for free agents. Only got Brunson because his dad was on staff. So lucky that way. Thibs has never played in the finals. Rivers, Bud and Vogel not only played in the finals, but won there. I am sure Knicks want Michael Malone.

[FNG]

We had three relatively shocking coach firings in the past few months in the NBA...based on their performance, I wouldn't have fired any of them. But I'm fairly confident none of them were true management decisions...they were player decisions. Jenkins, Malone and Thibs are all highly regarded coaches who have had a lot of success in their careers, including this year. But for one reason or another, they were apparently not popular with their players, and this being a players' league, management's hand was forced. Thibs and Malone have old school personalities...tough, and not cuddly. You know...the kind of coaches many of us had in our playing days. But that's not what this generation of players wants or accepts. They want the relatively warm and relational David Adelman. And you can bet that the Knicks are not going to replace Thibs with a coach with a hard ass reputation. I don't know much about Taylor Jenkins' coaching style, but I think we're naive if we think Ja Morant didn't have a hand in the firing.

It's a new era. boys...

[KG4Ever]

We had three relatively shocking coach firings in the past few months in the NBA...based on their performance, I wouldn't have fired any of them. But I'm fairly confident none of them were true management decisions...they were player decisions. Jenkins, Malone and Thibs are all highly regarded coaches who have had a lot of success in their careers, including this year. But for one reason or another, they were apparently not popular with their players, and this being a players' league, management's hand was forced. Thibs and Malone have old school personalities...tough, and not cuddly. You know...the kind of coaches many of us had in our playing days. But that's not what this generation of players wants or accepts. They want the relatively warm and relational David Adelman. And you can bet that the Knicks are not going to replace Thibs with a coach with a hard ass reputation. I don't know much about Taylor Jenkins' coaching style, but I think we're naive if we think Ja Morant didn't have a hand in the firing.

It's a new era. boys...

While you might be right about the others, but I think in Thibs case it wasn't the players who forced him out (after all Jalen Brunson wants his dad employed and he is also tight with the Villanova crew) so much as the front office wanted Thibs to be the fall guy for their failure to not make it to the finals after the big trades they made getting Anunoby, Bridges and KAT.

[Wolvesfan21]

I wasn't a Thibs fan mainly because he was a terrible GM but I didn't like his shallow rotations and that he overplays guys which has led to injuries and lack of development of the non-rotation guys, his failure to live up to his defensive genius reputation, plus his barking is really annoying. Can't say I'm upset by the news The only downside is the Knicks may tap a guy that I was hoping the Wolves would consider for their next head coach.

Thibs and Finch are cut from the same cloth in many ways with similar strengths and weaknesses.
Thibs and Finch are both good coaches who regularly get their teams into the playoffs. But neither are great coaches and that is what I want here. I want a coach who can make in-game adjustments, who can develop a deep rotation, can bench guys when they need to be benched and who can inspire the team when they need it. None of these attributes are strengths of Thibs or Finch. I like the precedent that even if a coach gets to the finals like Thibs, his job may not be safe. Heck, there are several coaches who won a title and didn't last more than a couple years later. I'm hoping TC who inherited Finch might consider a different direction either this offseason or next if the Wolves don't make it past the conference finals.

This is Finchies strength. He benched Randle a former All Star in the playoffs! 99% of coaches would not have the respect of the players or balls to even do that.

How has Ant developed? Poorly I suppose? Finch has nothing to do with it? I don't understand how you can only see your own nonsensical negatives when the REAL positives are slapping you in the face. Ant was once a young player who has developed BTW during Finchies time, in case you missed it.

The other guys are coming along just fine. You don't hand them minutes, you make them earn it by performing in practice, offseason, summer league. Finch sees these guys in practice and knows more then you, me or anyone else on this board. He's doing a great job to me.

Now saying that if TC who also knows a lot more did replace Finch I'd be fine with it, though skeptical for sure. But by all accounts the players love playing for Finch and Finch has had 2 really great seasons back to back. Best coach in Wolves history in case you forget all those 20 win seasons.

[KG4Ever]

I wasn't a Thibs fan mainly because he was a terrible GM but I didn't like his shallow rotations and that he overplays guys which has led to injuries and lack of development of the non-rotation guys, his failure to live up to his defensive genius reputation, plus his barking is really annoying. Can't say I'm upset by the news The only downside is the Knicks may tap a guy that I was hoping the Wolves would consider for their next head coach.

Thibs and Finch are cut from the same cloth in many ways with similar strengths and weaknesses.
Thibs and Finch are both good coaches who regularly get their teams into the playoffs. But neither are great coaches and that is what I want here. I want a coach who can make in-game adjustments, who can develop a deep rotation, can bench guys when they need to be benched and who can inspire the team when they need it. None of these attributes are strengths of Thibs or Finch. I like the precedent that even if a coach gets to the finals like Thibs, his job may not be safe. Heck, there are several coaches who won a title and didn't last more than a couple years later. I'm hoping TC who inherited Finch might consider a different direction either this offseason or next if the Wolves don't make it past the conference finals.

This is Finchies strength. He benched Randle a former All Star in the playoffs! 99% of coaches would not have the respect of the players or balls to even do that.

How has Ant developed? Poorly I suppose? Finch has nothing to do with it? I don't understand how you can only see your own nonsensical negatives when the REAL positives are slapping you in the face. Ant was once a young player who has developed BTW during Finchies time, in case you missed it.

The other guys are coming along just fine. You don't hand them minutes, you make them earn it by performing in practice, offseason, summer league. Finch sees these guys in practice and knows more then you, me or anyone else on this board. He's doing a great job to me.

Now saying that if TC who also knows a lot more did replace Finch I'd be fine with it, though skeptical for sure. But by all accounts the players love playing for Finch and Finch has had 2 really great seasons back to back. Best coach in Wolves history in case you forget all those 20 win seasons.

Did you actually poll coaches? 99% is just some number you made up and that is what you lead with? Pathetic! I disagree with Finch's lineups as he overplays cold or ineffective or defensive dogging players, overplays guys when game is out of reach. And Finch fails to give young guys and new guys much of an opportunity to develop and to form a deep rotation when it could help.

Ant would be a superstar with any coach. He's that talented. Finch is riding Ant's coattails. Also, TC has traded away nearly all of our draft assets and has near the highest collective salary to give Finch talent to surround Ant with, and Finch could only manage a sixth place finish.

Who was coaching the all-star game when the team lost by the biggest margin ever?

If you like never making an NBA finals, Finch is your guy. But I'll be thrilled if Finch, the Thibs clone, is gone.

[AbeVigodaLive]

I wasn't a Thibs fan mainly because he was a terrible GM but I didn't like his shallow rotations and that he overplays guys which has led to injuries and lack of development of the non-rotation guys, his failure to live up to his defensive genius reputation, plus his barking is really annoying. Can't say I'm upset by the news The only downside is the Knicks may tap a guy that I was hoping the Wolves would consider for their next head coach.

Thibs and Finch are cut from the same cloth in many ways with similar strengths and weaknesses.
Thibs and Finch are both good coaches who regularly get their teams into the playoffs. But neither are great coaches and that is what I want here. I want a coach who can make in-game adjustments, who can develop a deep rotation, can bench guys when they need to be benched and who can inspire the team when they need it. None of these attributes are strengths of Thibs or Finch. I like the precedent that even if a coach gets to the finals like Thibs, his job may not be safe. Heck, there are several coaches who won a title and didn't last more than a couple years later. I'm hoping TC who inherited Finch might consider a different direction either this offseason or next if the Wolves don't make it past the conference finals.

This is Finchies strength. He benched Randle a former All Star in the playoffs! 99% of coaches would not have the respect of the players or balls to even do that.

How has Ant developed? Poorly I suppose? Finch has nothing to do with it? I don't understand how you can only see your own nonsensical negatives when the REAL positives are slapping you in the face. Ant was once a young player who has developed BTW during Finchies time, in case you missed it.

The other guys are coming along just fine. You don't hand them minutes, you make them earn it by performing in practice, offseason, summer league. Finch sees these guys in practice and knows more then you, me or anyone else on this board. He's doing a great job to me.

Now saying that if TC who also knows a lot more did replace Finch I'd be fine with it, though skeptical for sure. But by all accounts the players love playing for Finch and Finch has had 2 really great seasons back to back. Best coach in Wolves history in case you forget all those 20 win seasons.

Did you actually poll coaches? 99% is just some number you made up and that is what you lead with? Pathetic! I disagree with Finch's lineups as he overplays cold or ineffective or defensive dogging players, overplays guys when game is out of reach. And Finch fails to give young guys and new guys much of an opportunity to develop and to form a deep rotation when it could help.

Ant would be a superstar with any coach. He's that talented. Finch is riding Ant's coattails. Also, TC has traded away nearly all of our draft assets and has near the highest collective salary to give Finch talent to surround Ant with, and Finch could only manage a sixth place finish.

Who was coaching the all-star game when the team lost by the biggest margin ever?

If you like never making an NBA finals, Finch is your guy. But I'll be thrilled if Finch, the Thibs clone, is gone.

Dude.

LOL.

[FNG]

This is Finchies strength. He benched Randle a former All Star in the playoffs! 99% of coaches would not have the respect of the players or balls to even do that.

How has Ant developed? Poorly I suppose? Finch has nothing to do with it? I don't understand how you can only see your own nonsensical negatives when the REAL positives are slapping you in the face. Ant was once a young player who has developed BTW during Finchies time, in case you missed it.

The other guys are coming along just fine. You don't hand them minutes, you make them earn it by performing in practice, offseason, summer league. Finch sees these guys in practice and knows more then you, me or anyone else on this board. He's doing a great job to me.

Now saying that if TC who also knows a lot more did replace Finch I'd be fine with it, though skeptical for sure. But by all accounts the players love playing for Finch and Finch has had 2 really great seasons back to back. Best coach in Wolves history in case you forget all those 20 win seasons.

Did you actually poll coaches? 99% is just some number you made up and that is what you lead with? Pathetic! I disagree with Finch's lineups as he overplays cold or ineffective or defensive dogging players, overplays guys when game is out of reach. And Finch fails to give young guys and new guys much of an opportunity to develop and to form a deep rotation when it could help.

Ant would be a superstar with any coach. He's that talented. Finch is riding Ant's coattails. Also, TC has traded away nearly all of our draft assets and has near the highest collective salary to give Finch talent to surround Ant with, and Finch could only manage a sixth place finish.

Who was coaching the all-star game when the team lost by the biggest margin ever?

If you like never making an NBA finals, Finch is your guy. But I'll be thrilled if Finch, the Thibs clone, is gone.

Dude.

LOL.

I’m actually kind of relieved. I thought I was the only poster here who evaluates coaches based on how well their all star team performs. I’m glad I have some company.

[60WinTim]

I meant to post this earlier. Kendra Randle, Julius's wife, posted this on X less than half an hour after Thibs' release. Somehow, I think it is more than just a coincidence!!!

https://x.com/KendraRandle_/status/1929975721809850705

[Lipoli390]

I meant to post this earlier. Kendra Randle, Julius's wife, posted this on X less than half an hour after Thibs' release. Somehow, I think it is more than just a coincidence!!!

https://x.com/KendraRandle_/status/1929975721809850705

Lol