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Re: History Lesson: Unlucky Wolves vs. Lucky Lakers...

Posted: Sat Mar 21, 2026 9:47 pm
by Q-is-here
AbeVigodaLive wrote: Thu Mar 19, 2026 3:22 pm By the way... Lakers now +7 in real wins vs. expected wins. (San Antonio is next at +2. At least the Wolves aren't negative this season... +0.)

The Lakers are now 20 - 6 in "close games" this season.

Nothing shady in the close Houston game this week though. Luka Doncic is just too damn good. And as noted elsewhere on this site... Marcus Smart has really helped shore up the previously leaky Lakers defense.

He's going to need to hit big shots in the playoffs though. It's always interesting to see Smart in those moments. Anything can happen.
Lakers with another 1-point victory on a last second shot Abe! Part of the real vs. expected delta is that they are just legit good in crunch time.

Re: History Lesson: Unlucky Wolves vs. Lucky Lakers...

Posted: Sat Mar 21, 2026 11:07 pm
by KiwiMatt
Free throw attempts per game disparity plays a big part in Lakers winning more games than they are expected to.

I can’t find the stats for this season, but I remember seeing it last season that since 2022/23 they were something like +1200 in FTA for and against. The next team was under half that. This was before Luka. I’ve been looking at their box scores recently and they always have 5 to 10 more FTA per game than their opposition. There is also a disparity in personal fouls for and against.

They get a favourable whistle. Whether it’s premeditated by the officials or not is the real question.

Re: History Lesson: Unlucky Wolves vs. Lucky Lakers...

Posted: Sun Mar 22, 2026 9:09 am
by Phenom
KiwiMatt wrote: Sat Mar 21, 2026 11:07 pm Free throw attempts per game disparity plays a big part in Lakers winning more games than they are expected to.

I can’t find the stats for this season, but I remember seeing it last season that since 2022/23 they were something like +1200 in FTA for and against. The next team was under half that. This was before Luka. I’ve been looking at their box scores recently and they always have 5 to 10 more FTA per game than their opposition. There is also a disparity in personal fouls for and against.

They get a favourable whistle. Whether it’s premeditated by the officials or not is the real question.
Lakers are +366 in fta differential as a team this season according to stat muse. That's number one in the NBA by 101 over 2nd place Spurs

Re: History Lesson: Unlucky Wolves vs. Lucky Lakers...

Posted: Sun Mar 22, 2026 10:23 am
by rapsuperstar31
KiwiMatt wrote: Sat Mar 21, 2026 11:07 pm Free throw attempts per game disparity plays a big part in Lakers winning more games than they are expected to.

I can’t find the stats for this season, but I remember seeing it last season that since 2022/23 they were something like +1200 in FTA for and against. The next team was under half that. This was before Luka. I’ve been looking at their box scores recently and they always have 5 to 10 more FTA per game than their opposition. There is also a disparity in personal fouls for and against.

They get a favourable whistle. Whether it’s premeditated by the officials or not is the real question.
I do think the advantage of having Ant defending Austin last year in the playoffs is that the NBA doesn't want Ant or any supserstar in foul trouble in the playoffs which results in less free throws for Reaves. The NBA doesn't care about Jaden or Donte getting in foul trouble if they defend him. Ant was excellent defending him last year in the playoffs, and well we've seen his effort on that side of the court this year in the regular season. If the Lakers are the match up, we need Ant to play defense like last season.

Re: History Lesson: Unlucky Wolves vs. Lucky Lakers...

Posted: Sun Mar 22, 2026 2:07 pm
by Q-is-here
KiwiMatt wrote: Sat Mar 21, 2026 11:07 pm Free throw attempts per game disparity plays a big part in Lakers winning more games than they are expected to.

I can’t find the stats for this season, but I remember seeing it last season that since 2022/23 they were something like +1200 in FTA for and against. The next team was under half that. This was before Luka. I’ve been looking at their box scores recently and they always have 5 to 10 more FTA per game than their opposition. There is also a disparity in personal fouls for and against.

They get a favourable whistle. Whether it’s premeditated by the officials or not is the real question.
But before Doncic, they had AD. He's always been pretty high up there in FTAs and a really good defender that avoids fouling. He created a huge differential just by himself.

My theory has always been that the Lakers happen to have players on their roster that are good at drawing fouls. I mean, LeBron averaged 8+ FTAs per game in his Cleveland stints, which is more than his Laker FTA average. AD averaged 7 FTAs per game while with New Orleans. Etc.

I do think there is some "unconscious" bias that the Lakers benefit from, but they also happen to have a long history of having really good players and most really good players draw a lot of fouls and get the benefit on defense too.

Re: History Lesson: Unlucky Wolves vs. Lucky Lakers...

Posted: Sun Mar 22, 2026 3:22 pm
by Coolbreeze44
Phenom wrote: Sun Mar 22, 2026 9:09 am
KiwiMatt wrote: Sat Mar 21, 2026 11:07 pm Free throw attempts per game disparity plays a big part in Lakers winning more games than they are expected to.

I can’t find the stats for this season, but I remember seeing it last season that since 2022/23 they were something like +1200 in FTA for and against. The next team was under half that. This was before Luka. I’ve been looking at their box scores recently and they always have 5 to 10 more FTA per game than their opposition. There is also a disparity in personal fouls for and against.

They get a favourable whistle. Whether it’s premeditated by the officials or not is the real question.
Lakers are +366 in fta differential as a team this season according to stat muse. That's number one in the NBA by 101 over 2nd place Spurs
And yet they complain more than any team I've ever watched. They are unwatchable with Luka on the team.

Re: History Lesson: Unlucky Wolves vs. Lucky Lakers...

Posted: Sun Mar 22, 2026 3:26 pm
by Coolbreeze44
Q-is-here wrote: Sun Mar 22, 2026 2:07 pm
KiwiMatt wrote: Sat Mar 21, 2026 11:07 pm Free throw attempts per game disparity plays a big part in Lakers winning more games than they are expected to.

I can’t find the stats for this season, but I remember seeing it last season that since 2022/23 they were something like +1200 in FTA for and against. The next team was under half that. This was before Luka. I’ve been looking at their box scores recently and they always have 5 to 10 more FTA per game than their opposition. There is also a disparity in personal fouls for and against.

They get a favourable whistle. Whether it’s premeditated by the officials or not is the real question.
But before Doncic, they had AD. He's always been pretty high up there in FTAs and a really good defender that avoids fouling. He created a huge differential just by himself.

My theory has always been that the Lakers happen to have players on their roster that are good at drawing fouls. I mean, LeBron averaged 8+ FTAs per game in his Cleveland stints, which is more than his Laker FTA average. AD averaged 7 FTAs per game while with New Orleans. Etc.

I do think there is some "unconscious" bias that the Lakers benefit from, but they also happen to have a long history of having really good players and most really good players draw a lot of fouls and get the benefit on defense too.
Your theory only tells part of the story. You can't know the history of the NBA and not know the favoritism afforded the Lakers.