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Re: Kekgeek grades G2 vs Magic

Posted: Sat Oct 24, 2026 4:34 pm
by Lipoli390
Wolvesfan21 wrote: ↑Sat Oct 24, 2026 3:16 am Ayo had a great game. One thing I forgot to mention last game that I've seen too often from him since his arrival is he loves to push the pace and I love it. However, he does a bit too often force bad shots at the rim in doing so, I think he and we'd be much more effective if he pulled the ball out after getting to the rim when the shot isn't there, potentially dishing to a nice trailer on the 3 ball.

He's not Giannis where he can with his length and strength just bully guys and dunk on them (how many are though :lol: ), so he could be a bit more selective with his shots and be a more positive player overall.
Ayo isn’t Giannis but he’s an exceptional finisher at the rim and is an elite shooter inside the arc. Last season he ranked 6th among all NBA players last season in 2-point FG percentage. He ranked first among NBA guards and effectively ranked ahead of generational mid-range scorers like DeMar DeRozan and Kevin Durant. So yes, Ayo SHOULD be attacking and taking those shots at the rim.


Rank Player Position Team 2-Point FG%
1 Giannis Antetokounmpo Forward Miami Heat 62.4%
2 Zion Williamson Forward New Orleans Pelicans 60.0%
3 Jaden McDaniels Forward Minnesota Timberwolves 58.7%
4 Michael Porter Jr. Forward Denver Nuggets 58.5%
5 Bobby Portis Forward Milwaukee Bucks 57.9%
6 Ayo Dosunmu Guard Bulls / Timberwolves 56.3%
7 DeMar DeRozan Guard/Forward Denver Nuggets 55.8%
8 Stephen Curry Guard Golden State Warriors 55.2%
9 Shai Gilgeous-Alexander Guard Oklahoma City Thunder 54.8%
10 Kevin Durant Forward Houston Rockets 54.1%

Re: Kekgeek grades G2 vs Magic

Posted: Sat Oct 24, 2026 6:13 pm
by AussieWolf3
Lipoli390 wrote: ↑Sat Oct 24, 2026 4:34 pm
Wolvesfan21 wrote: ↑Sat Oct 24, 2026 3:16 am Ayo had a great game. One thing I forgot to mention last game that I've seen too often from him since his arrival is he loves to push the pace and I love it. However, he does a bit too often force bad shots at the rim in doing so, I think he and we'd be much more effective if he pulled the ball out after getting to the rim when the shot isn't there, potentially dishing to a nice trailer on the 3 ball.

He's not Giannis where he can with his length and strength just bully guys and dunk on them (how many are though :lol: ), so he could be a bit more selective with his shots and be a more positive player overall.
Ayo isn’t Giannis but he’s an exceptional finisher at the rim and is an elite shooter inside the arc. Last season he ranked 6th among all NBA players last season in 2-point FG percentage. He ranked first among NBA guards and effectively ranked ahead of generational mid-range scorers like DeMar DeRozan and Kevin Durant. So yes, Ayo SHOULD be attacking and taking those shots at the rim.


Rank Player Position Team 2-Point FG%
1 Giannis Antetokounmpo Forward Miami Heat 62.4%
2 Zion Williamson Forward New Orleans Pelicans 60.0%
3 Jaden McDaniels Forward Minnesota Timberwolves 58.7%
4 Michael Porter Jr. Forward Denver Nuggets 58.5%
5 Bobby Portis Forward Milwaukee Bucks 57.9%
6 Ayo Dosunmu Guard Bulls / Timberwolves 56.3%
7 DeMar DeRozan Guard/Forward Denver Nuggets 55.8%
8 Stephen Curry Guard Golden State Warriors 55.2%
9 Shai Gilgeous-Alexander Guard Oklahoma City Thunder 54.8%
10 Kevin Durant Forward Houston Rockets 54.1%
I'm curious what data you're looking at, and also you have conflated rim attempts with 2p FGAs.

If we filter down to strictly just rim FG%, per databallers, Ayo was 62.3% which was a 41 percentile rate last year. In other words, not very good. I still like the pressure he puts on the rim and he's a legit 3 level scorer, but he's pretty mid as a finisher.

For whatever it's worth, Ant and Jaden tied for best on the team and among the best in the league with 71.5% at the rim

Re: Kekgeek grades G2 vs Magic

Posted: Sat Oct 24, 2026 10:47 pm
by Monster
AussieWolf3 wrote: ↑Sat Oct 24, 2026 6:13 pm
Lipoli390 wrote: ↑Sat Oct 24, 2026 4:34 pm
Wolvesfan21 wrote: ↑Sat Oct 24, 2026 3:16 am Ayo had a great game. One thing I forgot to mention last game that I've seen too often from him since his arrival is he loves to push the pace and I love it. However, he does a bit too often force bad shots at the rim in doing so, I think he and we'd be much more effective if he pulled the ball out after getting to the rim when the shot isn't there, potentially dishing to a nice trailer on the 3 ball.

He's not Giannis where he can with his length and strength just bully guys and dunk on them (how many are though :lol: ), so he could be a bit more selective with his shots and be a more positive player overall.
Ayo isn’t Giannis but he’s an exceptional finisher at the rim and is an elite shooter inside the arc. Last season he ranked 6th among all NBA players last season in 2-point FG percentage. He ranked first among NBA guards and effectively ranked ahead of generational mid-range scorers like DeMar DeRozan and Kevin Durant. So yes, Ayo SHOULD be attacking and taking those shots at the rim.


Rank Player Position Team 2-Point FG%
1 Giannis Antetokounmpo Forward Miami Heat 62.4%
2 Zion Williamson Forward New Orleans Pelicans 60.0%
3 Jaden McDaniels Forward Minnesota Timberwolves 58.7%
4 Michael Porter Jr. Forward Denver Nuggets 58.5%
5 Bobby Portis Forward Milwaukee Bucks 57.9%
6 Ayo Dosunmu Guard Bulls / Timberwolves 56.3%
7 DeMar DeRozan Guard/Forward Denver Nuggets 55.8%
8 Stephen Curry Guard Golden State Warriors 55.2%
9 Shai Gilgeous-Alexander Guard Oklahoma City Thunder 54.8%
10 Kevin Durant Forward Houston Rockets 54.1%
I'm curious what data you're looking at, and also you have conflated rim attempts with 2p FGAs.

If we filter down to strictly just rim FG%, per databallers, Ayo was 62.3% which was a 41 percentile rate last year. In other words, not very good. I still like the pressure he puts on the rim and he's a legit 3 level scorer, but he's pretty mid as a finisher.

For whatever it's worth, Ant and Jaden tied for best on the team and among the best in the league with 71.5% at the rim
I'll take a guy that gets to the rim and finishes at 62.3% unless he is wildly turning the ball over a ton or something which seems unlikely since he has never even averaged 2 turnovers per game per 36 in his entire career. Could he be more judicious? Yes I think you make a fair point but over 60% at the rim that's still a pretty efficient thing he is doing plus I've definitely seen him spray some passes out on drives. I'd be happy if TJ gets to the place Ayo is right now even with his flaws going at the basket.

Re: Kekgeek grades G2 vs Magic

Posted: Sun Oct 25, 2026 1:07 am
by AussieWolf3
Monster wrote: ↑Sat Oct 24, 2026 10:47 pm
AussieWolf3 wrote: ↑Sat Oct 24, 2026 6:13 pm
Lipoli390 wrote: ↑Sat Oct 24, 2026 4:34 pm

Ayo isn’t Giannis but he’s an exceptional finisher at the rim and is an elite shooter inside the arc. Last season he ranked 6th among all NBA players last season in 2-point FG percentage. He ranked first among NBA guards and effectively ranked ahead of generational mid-range scorers like DeMar DeRozan and Kevin Durant. So yes, Ayo SHOULD be attacking and taking those shots at the rim.


Rank Player Position Team 2-Point FG%
1 Giannis Antetokounmpo Forward Miami Heat 62.4%
2 Zion Williamson Forward New Orleans Pelicans 60.0%
3 Jaden McDaniels Forward Minnesota Timberwolves 58.7%
4 Michael Porter Jr. Forward Denver Nuggets 58.5%
5 Bobby Portis Forward Milwaukee Bucks 57.9%
6 Ayo Dosunmu Guard Bulls / Timberwolves 56.3%
7 DeMar DeRozan Guard/Forward Denver Nuggets 55.8%
8 Stephen Curry Guard Golden State Warriors 55.2%
9 Shai Gilgeous-Alexander Guard Oklahoma City Thunder 54.8%
10 Kevin Durant Forward Houston Rockets 54.1%
I'm curious what data you're looking at, and also you have conflated rim attempts with 2p FGAs.

If we filter down to strictly just rim FG%, per databallers, Ayo was 62.3% which was a 41 percentile rate last year. In other words, not very good. I still like the pressure he puts on the rim and he's a legit 3 level scorer, but he's pretty mid as a finisher.

For whatever it's worth, Ant and Jaden tied for best on the team and among the best in the league with 71.5% at the rim
I'll take a guy that gets to the rim and finishes at 62.3% unless he is wildly turning the ball over a ton or something which seems unlikely since he has never even averaged 2 turnovers per game per 36 in his entire career. Could he be more judicious? Yes I think you make a fair point but over 60% at the rim that's still a pretty efficient thing he is doing plus I've definitely seen him spray some passes out on drives. I'd be happy if TJ gets to the place Ayo is right now even with his flaws going at the basket.
To be clear, I completely agree with you. 62% is 1.24 pts per attempt, which is elite offense.

The fact that he is statistically average finisher at the rim is proof enough that it isn't out of pocket for him to continue to operate as is. In others words, he isn't bad at it. He's also very good to elite shooting from other areas of the floor, so rim pressure is asset to his and other players ability to create open shots