SleeperHoops
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The Minnesota Timberwolves rank:
1st in +/-
1st in Rebounds
2nd in Wins
3rd in Points Scored
3rd in 3-Pointers Made
4th in Assists
5th in Steals
Also
Wolves are currently
116.2 offensive rating for 8th place
105.1 defensive rating for 1st place
Stats Tracker 2026-27 Season
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AussieWolf3
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Re: Stats Tracker 2026-27 Season
DPM is my favorite catch all stat. Which used a combination of lineup data, box score data, and net rating to create a more refined number that is supposed to represent how much there team scores while they're on the floor. Is a combined offense and defense stat- although there are exclusive ones for offense and defense too.
It is very similar to EPM, except it is free to access and has proven to be a better predictive model.
No catch all is an end all be all, but it's a nice quick glance metric.
What is most interesting to be is following the trend lines for each player. For example Edwards finished last season with a 3.6 DPM - the late season injured tanked his score- he has moved all the way up to 5.2. Anyway that's what I'll be interested in keeping track of, how the stats moves through the year (it doesn't reset at zero year over year, but updated over time throughout a players career)
Ok enough exposition.
25' DPM. 26' DPM (11 games played)
Jaden. +0.3. / +1.0
Ayo. -.06. /-0.4
Kuminga -1.3. / +0.3
Ball. +2.6. / +3.0
Rudy. +1.9. / +2.9
Lyles. -0.7 (24'). / +0.1
Joan. +0.3. / -0.6
TJ. -1.8. / -1.8
Clark. -0.2. / 0.0
Edwards. +3.6. / +5.2
Bones. -0.1. / +1.0
It is very similar to EPM, except it is free to access and has proven to be a better predictive model.
No catch all is an end all be all, but it's a nice quick glance metric.
What is most interesting to be is following the trend lines for each player. For example Edwards finished last season with a 3.6 DPM - the late season injured tanked his score- he has moved all the way up to 5.2. Anyway that's what I'll be interested in keeping track of, how the stats moves through the year (it doesn't reset at zero year over year, but updated over time throughout a players career)
Ok enough exposition.
25' DPM. 26' DPM (11 games played)
Jaden. +0.3. / +1.0
Ayo. -.06. /-0.4
Kuminga -1.3. / +0.3
Ball. +2.6. / +3.0
Rudy. +1.9. / +2.9
Lyles. -0.7 (24'). / +0.1
Joan. +0.3. / -0.6
TJ. -1.8. / -1.8
Clark. -0.2. / 0.0
Edwards. +3.6. / +5.2
Bones. -0.1. / +1.0
Re: Stats Tracker 2026-27 Season
I'll have to learn a little more about this measure, Aussie. I like the top 10...they're mostly guys who also show up well in most of my favorite metrics. But there are also some really funky results. Oscar Tshiebwe is tied for 45th with Austin Reeves and Jalen Duren, and he's averaging 2.8 PPG and only averaging 7 MPG! Meanwhile Jaden ranks in the early 100s tied with Bones and a bunch of guys who aren't playing much, and Ayo ranks 233rd...I'm not trading either Jaden or Ayo for Oscar (although it would create some cap space)!AussieWolf3 wrote: ↑Mon Nov 09, 2026 12:38 pm DPM is my favorite catch all stat. Which used a combination of lineup data, box score data, and net rating to create a more refined number that is supposed to represent how much there team scores while they're on the floor. Is a combined offense and defense stat- although there are exclusive ones for offense and defense too.
It is very similar to EPM, except it is free to access and has proven to be a better predictive model.
No catch all is an end all be all, but it's a nice quick glance metric.
What is most interesting to be is following the trend lines for each player. For example Edwards finished last season with a 3.6 DPM - the late season injured tanked his score- he has moved all the way up to 5.2. Anyway that's what I'll be interested in keeping track of, how the stats moves through the year (it doesn't reset at zero year over year, but updated over time throughout a players career)
Ok enough exposition.
25' DPM. 26' DPM (11 games played)
Jaden. +0.3. / +1.0
Ayo. -.06. /-0.4
Kuminga -1.3. / +0.3
Ball. +2.6. / +3.0
Rudy. +1.9. / +2.9
Lyles. -0.7 (24'). / +0.1
Joan. +0.3. / -0.6
TJ. -1.8. / -1.8
Clark. -0.2. / 0.0
Edwards. +3.6. / +5.2
Bones. -0.1. / +1.0
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AussieWolf3
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Re: Stats Tracker 2026-27 Season
DPM and EMP are rate stats so they're gonna be skewed by low volume.FNG wrote: ↑Mon Nov 09, 2026 1:26 pmI'll have to learn a little more about this measure, Aussie. I like the top 10...they're mostly guys who also show up well in most of my favorite metrics. But there are also some really funky results. Oscar Tshiebwe is tied for 45th with Austin Reeves and Jalen Duren, and he's averaging 2.8 PPG and only averaging 7 MPG! Meanwhile Jaden ranks in the early 100s tied with Bones and a bunch of guys who aren't playing much, and Ayo ranks 233rd...I'm not trading either Jaden or Ayo for Oscar (although it would create some cap space)!AussieWolf3 wrote: ↑Mon Nov 09, 2026 12:38 pm DPM is my favorite catch all stat. Which used a combination of lineup data, box score data, and net rating to create a more refined number that is supposed to represent how much there team scores while they're on the floor. Is a combined offense and defense stat- although there are exclusive ones for offense and defense too.
It is very similar to EPM, except it is free to access and has proven to be a better predictive model.
No catch all is an end all be all, but it's a nice quick glance metric.
What is most interesting to be is following the trend lines for each player. For example Edwards finished last season with a 3.6 DPM - the late season injured tanked his score- he has moved all the way up to 5.2. Anyway that's what I'll be interested in keeping track of, how the stats moves through the year (it doesn't reset at zero year over year, but updated over time throughout a players career)
Ok enough exposition.
25' DPM. 26' DPM (11 games played)
Jaden. +0.3. / +1.0
Ayo. -.06. /-0.4
Kuminga -1.3. / +0.3
Ball. +2.6. / +3.0
Rudy. +1.9. / +2.9
Lyles. -0.7 (24'). / +0.1
Joan. +0.3. / -0.6
TJ. -1.8. / -1.8
Clark. -0.2. / 0.0
Edwards. +3.6. / +5.2
Bones. -0.1. / +1.0
It's also not a measure of HOW a player impacts the game, it's simple one number the captures pretty well if they did, and if future looking indicators predict it to sustain.
It would be foolish to look at something like this and believe it translates to a completely vertical and accurate ranking of all players in the league
Re: Stats Tracker 2026-27 Season
Amazing. And here we thought defense and rebounding were going to be potential issues for this team. I guess it's still early...rapsuperstar31 wrote: ↑Mon Nov 09, 2026 12:30 pm SleeperHoops
@Sleeper_Hoops
The Minnesota Timberwolves rank:
1st in +/-
1st in Rebounds
2nd in Wins
3rd in Points Scored
3rd in 3-Pointers Made
4th in Assists
5th in Steals
Also
Wolves are currently
116.2 offensive rating for 8th place
105.1 defensive rating for 1st place
Re: Stats Tracker 2026-27 Season
Ha, poor TJ....He is definitely doing better in the more rudimentary Net Rating stat. I think he's defending better for sure.AussieWolf3 wrote: ↑Mon Nov 09, 2026 12:38 pm DPM is my favorite catch all stat. Which used a combination of lineup data, box score data, and net rating to create a more refined number that is supposed to represent how much there team scores while they're on the floor. Is a combined offense and defense stat- although there are exclusive ones for offense and defense too.
It is very similar to EPM, except it is free to access and has proven to be a better predictive model.
No catch all is an end all be all, but it's a nice quick glance metric.
What is most interesting to be is following the trend lines for each player. For example Edwards finished last season with a 3.6 DPM - the late season injured tanked his score- he has moved all the way up to 5.2. Anyway that's what I'll be interested in keeping track of, how the stats moves through the year (it doesn't reset at zero year over year, but updated over time throughout a players career)
Ok enough exposition.
25' DPM. 26' DPM (11 games played)
Jaden. +0.3. / +1.0
Ayo. -.06. /-0.4
Kuminga -1.3. / +0.3
Ball. +2.6. / +3.0
Rudy. +1.9. / +2.9
Lyles. -0.7 (24'). / +0.1
Joan. +0.3. / -0.6
TJ. -1.8. / -1.8
Clark. -0.2. / 0.0
Edwards. +3.6. / +5.2
Bones. -0.1. / +1.0
Re: Stats Tracker 2026-27 Season
So we have the #1 defense, and we’re the only team in the Association that has scored over 110 points in every game this season…all this while missing our best player for more than half of this season and our (arguably) best 2-way player last year for all nine games. And they’re both expected back in a couple weeks. Very impressive!rapsuperstar31 wrote: ↑Mon Nov 09, 2026 12:30 pm SleeperHoops
@Sleeper_Hoops
The Minnesota Timberwolves rank:
1st in +/-
1st in Rebounds
2nd in Wins
3rd in Points Scored
3rd in 3-Pointers Made
4th in Assists
5th in Steals
Also
Wolves are currently
116.2 offensive rating for 8th place
105.1 defensive rating for 1st place
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AussieWolf3
- Posts: 1805
- Joined: Thu May 29, 2025 5:11 pm
Re: Stats Tracker 2026-27 Season
It is still early yes, but I think the only things that could really derail the defense is if Rudy either wears down or get injured or Kuminga starts to get salty about his roleQ-is-here wrote: ↑Mon Nov 09, 2026 4:22 pmAmazing. And here we thought defense and rebounding were going to be potential issues for this team. I guess it's still early...rapsuperstar31 wrote: ↑Mon Nov 09, 2026 12:30 pm SleeperHoops
@Sleeper_Hoops
The Minnesota Timberwolves rank:
1st in +/-
1st in Rebounds
2nd in Wins
3rd in Points Scored
3rd in 3-Pointers Made
4th in Assists
5th in Steals
Also
Wolves are currently
116.2 offensive rating for 8th place
105.1 defensive rating for 1st place
Jaden getting injured would obviously be a huge as well.
Outside of those factors, the thing I'm most curious about is if the great rebounding can continue. I don't know of any particular reason it can't, but they are certainly winning boards on a matter of want to, which could become overtaxing
I'll be honest, I'm certainly feeling a sense of vindication because I really really didn't buy that the defense would take a major step back this year. They eliminate two of their worst defenders in Naz and Randle. What they gained back was a bevy of unanswered question with enormous upside, not the least of which was better synergy.
It's a real credit to the players and coaches that they've been able to tap that upside to this point
Re: Stats Tracker 2026-27 Season
Yeah, they re-allocated a shit ton of $ to the backcourt, which is where is should be! It never made any sense to me coming off the 2024-25 season to go into last season with nearly $60M tied up in two guys that are one way offensive players that play the exact same position!AussieWolf3 wrote: ↑Mon Nov 09, 2026 7:00 pmIt is still early yes, but I think the only things that could really derail the defense is if Rudy either wears down or get injured or Kuminga starts to get salty about his roleQ-is-here wrote: ↑Mon Nov 09, 2026 4:22 pmAmazing. And here we thought defense and rebounding were going to be potential issues for this team. I guess it's still early...rapsuperstar31 wrote: ↑Mon Nov 09, 2026 12:30 pm SleeperHoops
@Sleeper_Hoops
The Minnesota Timberwolves rank:
1st in +/-
1st in Rebounds
2nd in Wins
3rd in Points Scored
3rd in 3-Pointers Made
4th in Assists
5th in Steals
Also
Wolves are currently
116.2 offensive rating for 8th place
105.1 defensive rating for 1st place
Jaden getting injured would obviously be a huge as well.
Outside of those factors, the thing I'm most curious about is if the great rebounding can continue. I don't know of any particular reason it can't, but they are certainly winning boards on a matter of want to, which could become overtaxing
I'll be honest, I'm certainly feeling a sense of vindication because I really really didn't buy that the defense would take a major step back this year. They eliminate two of their worst defenders in Naz and Randle. What they gained back was a bevy of unanswered question with enormous upside, not the least of which was better synergy.
It's a real credit to the players and coaches that they've been able to tap that upside to this point
Now we've got $8.5M tied up in Kuminga and Lyles. So we are spending $51.5M less for better results! That's nuts and makes me think Connelly was a couple trade windows too late in moving at least one of those two guys (i.e. Randle).
(I realize the Dollar Store bargain won't last with Kuminga, but even if we were paying him $25M per year + Lyles, it would still be half as much as the Randle/Naz combo).
Re: Stats Tracker 2026-27 Season
I agree on your two things that could derail this season. Ant was off to a terrific start and is the most explosive scorer on this roster, but just like last year, we are learning that we can survive for a while without him. But if Rudy went down, we would be cooked. As excited as we all are about Joan, he still needs seasoning and is benefiting from being Rudy's understudy. Fortunately nobody on the roster takes care of his body as well as Rudy. And yeah, because of JK's past, I'm holding my breath hoping this version of him continues. Again, we all like Lyles, but coming off the bench for JK is a perfect role for him.AussieWolf3 wrote: ↑Mon Nov 09, 2026 7:00 pmIt is still early yes, but I think the only things that could really derail the defense is if Rudy either wears down or get injured or Kuminga starts to get salty about his roleQ-is-here wrote: ↑Mon Nov 09, 2026 4:22 pmAmazing. And here we thought defense and rebounding were going to be potential issues for this team. I guess it's still early...rapsuperstar31 wrote: ↑Mon Nov 09, 2026 12:30 pm SleeperHoops
@Sleeper_Hoops
The Minnesota Timberwolves rank:
1st in +/-
1st in Rebounds
2nd in Wins
3rd in Points Scored
3rd in 3-Pointers Made
4th in Assists
5th in Steals
Also
Wolves are currently
116.2 offensive rating for 8th place
105.1 defensive rating for 1st place
Jaden getting injured would obviously be a huge as well.
Outside of those factors, the thing I'm most curious about is if the great rebounding can continue. I don't know of any particular reason it can't, but they are certainly winning boards on a matter of want to, which could become overtaxing
I'll be honest, I'm certainly feeling a sense of vindication because I really really didn't buy that the defense would take a major step back this year. They eliminate two of their worst defenders in Naz and Randle. What they gained back was a bevy of unanswered question with enormous upside, not the least of which was better synergy.
It's a real credit to the players and coaches that they've been able to tap that upside to this point
Jaden had been mostly terrific and is probably our best 2-way player so far this season. That said, I think we could survive a period with him out easier than Rudy or JK. One of our plethora of wings could fill in for a few games...not as good ouf course, but I still think we would survive.