bleedspeed177 wrote:I think Cook is likely the best player on offense. I wonder if we breakdown spending by position how we stack up in pay. I would think we are lagging in OL. Probably top 10 in QB and WR/TE.
Kline is currently 26th in terms of guards (at a little over 6 million) which will probably change some as guys get let go and also signed.
Reiff is slated for just over 13 million (4 million guaranteed) which makes him 11th. If we cut Reiff even with his guaranteed money and draft his replacement we would be paying less than 20 million for the entire starting oline and everyone besides Kline would be on a rookie deal.
On one hand it's bad we aren't spending money on the oline and on the other hand we aren't spending money on that group because...we don't have good players there. Lol re-signing O'Neill in a couple years isn't going to be cheap and hopefully Bradberry comes along and needs a nice contract also. When was the last time this team really stepped up with a long term offer for an oline man after their rookie deal ended? Fusco and Sullivan? Sullivan was quite a while ago now. They wisely let Kalil go the guy just can't stay healthy.
I'd rather the team signs a couple nice FA OLineman then resigning Cook. Mattison is good enough, while the line isn't. RB's are nice to have when you already have a stud OLine. I think Bleed mentioned trading Cook. That wouldn't be a bad option, or simply go after a good OLine this offseason and make a run next year. Let Cook walk after his rookie deal expires and keep the OLine intact.
WolvesFan21 wrote:I'd rather the team signs a couple nice FA OLineman then resigning Cook. Mattison is good enough, while the line isn't. RB's are nice to have when you already have a stud OLine. I think Bleed mentioned trading Cook. That wouldn't be a bad option, or simply go after a good OLine this offseason and make a run next year. Let Cook walk after his rookie deal expires and keep the OLine intact.
Just curious what is the highest salary per season you guys would be willing to give Cook a season to keep him?
WolvesFan21 wrote:I'd rather the team signs a couple nice FA OLineman then resigning Cook. Mattison is good enough, while the line isn't. RB's are nice to have when you already have a stud OLine. I think Bleed mentioned trading Cook. That wouldn't be a bad option, or simply go after a good OLine this offseason and make a run next year. Let Cook walk after his rookie deal expires and keep the OLine intact.
Just curious what is the highest salary per season you guys would be willing to give Cook a season to keep him?
Not sure, I haven't done the research on the multitude of variables that would allow me to ascertain a specific number. I would prioritize OLine though and of course I would love to keep Cook too, but not if it means we cannot upgrade the poor OLine.
I saw the Vikes ran 4th most but only avg 6th in yardage. So below avg in yards per attempt which came in at 4.3. Cook was the best back of course for the Vikes with 4.5 avg.
I think if the Vikes are going to win a Superbowl they need a dominant type of OLine to matchup with top defenses. That was the weakness at the Niners. Can't run the ball you might as well forget it because the Line isn't good enough to pass protect every down either, so it's a double edge sword.
On one hand it's bad we aren't spending money on the oline and on the other hand we aren't spending money on that group because...we don't have good players there. Lol re-signing O'Neill in a couple years isn't going to be cheap and hopefully Bradberry comes along and needs a nice contract also. When was the last time this team really stepped up with a long term offer for an oline man after their rookie deal ended? Fusco and Sullivan? Sullivan was quite a while ago now. They wisely let Kalil go the guy just can't stay healthy.
I think they outperformed there pay to rank. I felt Elfein was better his rookie year then Bradberry. I hope he gets better. I think we need a people movers on our line at LG and a plan for 2021 after Reiff's contract is up. I felt he was solid.
Both Elflein and Bradbury were outmatched physically for sure. I think it was Bradbury who ended up on his back just straight steamrolled one time. I don't know if I have ever seen a guy go straight backwards on his ass before as quickly as he did.
It seems they like athletic guys who can pull and run the stretch plays well but it is an issue when you can't move the other dude or when pass blocking you keep getting pushed back into the QB. I know monster said Kline was pretty solid, I agree that he was better then the other two from my view.
Unless Elflein was dealing with an injury I have little hope for him. Bradbury is still young, he can get stronger and bigger.
I would rather pay Cook big money than Diggs. Cook with a mediocre line this year was one of the best players in the entire league. I think we should pivot to a Titans model and ditch Cousins and use that money to invest in a real identity of Cook/Mattison behind a strong O Line. Bring in a serviceable QB in the mid-salary range or even draft one to get that rookie deal and let the skill guys be the offense. There's no point paying a QB who can't elevate his teammates like Kirk. You can get that for much cheaper who can do similar or close with the weapons we have as we saw with Case. I think RB has now been undervalued in the league so if you can get Cook for 10-12 on average that would be what I would push for.
khans2k5 wrote:I would rather pay Cook big money than Diggs. Cook with a mediocre line this year was one of the best players in the entire league. I think we should pivot to a Titans model and ditch Cousins and use that money to invest in a real identity of Cook/Mattison behind a strong O Line. Bring in a serviceable QB in the mid-salary range or even draft one to get that rookie deal and let the skill guys be the offense. There's no point paying a QB who can't elevate his teammates like Kirk. You can get that for much cheaper who can do similar or close with the weapons we have as we saw with Case. I think RB has now been undervalued in the league so if you can get Cook for 10-12 on average that would be what I would push for.
I did remember seeing Cousins was number one in the NFL on passes completed to highly covered targets. He was 50% or so. So while he isn't very mobile at all, is somewhat slow in getting the ball out and reading defenses he is highly accurate and had a very good season.
I'm definitely on board with upgrading the backup spot, someone with upside potential, someone who could take over if need be in two years or if Cousins gets hurt. I think Cousins deal runs through next season anyways. It doesn't make sense to just cut him and sign someone worse.
