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Camden wrote:
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Camden0916 wrote:J-Mac can receive more than that if it's a multi-year deal. The two-way player status can be an unfair cycle of one-year deals, but J-Mac should be a good bet to see two and three year deals.


That's right you corrected me on this before if I remember right but what team is going to offer something the Wolves won't or can't match? They would have to offer what like 4-5 million a year?


Considering I don't see Minnesota putting themselves in the luxury this season, anything over three-million a year probably puts us at risk of losing him.


I wouldn't think it will take more than around $2.5 million per year for 2 or 3 years to sign JMac, would you? I think the issue for him will be whether he wants to be here as part of such a crowded backcourt. The questions is whether there are other teams out there who would offer him a better opportunity to play.
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lipoli390 wrote:
Camden wrote:
monsterpile wrote:
Camden0916 wrote:J-Mac can receive more than that if it's a multi-year deal. The two-way player status can be an unfair cycle of one-year deals, but J-Mac should be a good bet to see two and three year deals.


That's right you corrected me on this before if I remember right but what team is going to offer something the Wolves won't or can't match? They would have to offer what like 4-5 million a year?


Considering I don't see Minnesota putting themselves in the luxury this season, anything over three-million a year probably puts us at risk of losing him.


I wouldn't think it will take more than around $2.5 million per year for 2 or 3 years to sign JMac, would you? I think the issue for him will be whether he wants to be here as part of such a crowded backcourt. The questions is whether there are other teams out there who would offer him a better opportunity to play.


Isn't that question irrelevant? He is a restricted FA, so the Wolves get to determine if they will keep him or not, not JMac.
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60WinTim wrote:
lipoli390 wrote:
Camden wrote:
monsterpile wrote:
Camden0916 wrote:J-Mac can receive more than that if it's a multi-year deal. The two-way player status can be an unfair cycle of one-year deals, but J-Mac should be a good bet to see two and three year deals.


That's right you corrected me on this before if I remember right but what team is going to offer something the Wolves won't or can't match? They would have to offer what like 4-5 million a year?


Considering I don't see Minnesota putting themselves in the luxury this season, anything over three-million a year probably puts us at risk of losing him.


I wouldn't think it will take more than around $2.5 million per year for 2 or 3 years to sign JMac, would you? I think the issue for him will be whether he wants to be here as part of such a crowded backcourt. The questions is whether there are other teams out there who would offer him a better opportunity to play.


Isn't that question irrelevant? He is a restricted FA, so the Wolves get to determine if they will keep him or not, not JMac.


Certainly, the Wolves could match whatever offer sheet J-Mac might sign. So, they hold power in that regard. My initial point was that it wouldn't take much -- just more than three-million a year -- for Minnesota to step away and let him go.

So, if a team does want J-Mac -- maybe to be their primary backup point guard, which is definitely a better opportunity -- then it won't be inconceivable that they could get him. Hopefully, they've already negotiated terms and are just waiting to ink the deal.
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leado01 wrote:Folks have Layman buried in all of these. I wouldn't be shocked to see Layman starting at the 3 or taking time as a 3/4 sub.


Which big contract vet in Russell/Rubio/Beasley or which young player in Edwards/Culver/Okogie are you just kicking out of the rotation to make that happen?
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I think most people assume Layman will be part of the regular rotation, but his minutes will come as Juancho's backup at PF. But the flexibility will be there to have play some SF as needed.
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Glenn Robinson III is going to be a steal for somebody in free agency. With how loaded this roster is at the two, I could form an argument that he'd have more value here than Jaylen Nowell in the present and future. And that's while acknowledging that I think Nowell is an intriguing young talent and I was cool with Minnesota drafting him last year.
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Camden0916 wrote:
60WinTim wrote:
lipoli390 wrote:
Camden wrote:
monsterpile wrote:
Camden0916 wrote:J-Mac can receive more than that if it's a multi-year deal. The two-way player status can be an unfair cycle of one-year deals, but J-Mac should be a good bet to see two and three year deals.


That's right you corrected me on this before if I remember right but what team is going to offer something the Wolves won't or can't match? They would have to offer what like 4-5 million a year?


Considering I don't see Minnesota putting themselves in the luxury this season, anything over three-million a year probably puts us at risk of losing him.


I wouldn't think it will take more than around $2.5 million per year for 2 or 3 years to sign JMac, would you? I think the issue for him will be whether he wants to be here as part of such a crowded backcourt. The questions is whether there are other teams out there who would offer him a better opportunity to play.


Isn't that question irrelevant? He is a restricted FA, so the Wolves get to determine if they will keep him or not, not JMac.


Certainly, the Wolves could match whatever offer sheet J-Mac might sign. So, they hold power in that regard. My initial point was that it wouldn't take much -- just more than three-million a year -- for Minnesota to step away and let him go.

So, if a team does want J-Mac -- maybe to be their primary backup point guard, which is definitely a better opportunity -- then it won't be inconceivable that they could get him. Hopefully, they've already negotiated terms and are just waiting to ink the deal.


J-Mac if signed would be the 3rd pg behind 2 guys that have historically missed a few games most years. So there is likely an opportunity for him for at least a few games. It seems unlikely any team is gonna hand him a backup pg job. In addition McLaughlin has familiarity with the coaching staff and front office from his time with the nets. The coaching staff has talked a lot about getting as much ball handling on the floor as possible and Russell and Rubio have size to play with him which could matter even more if there are other injuries to perimeter players. It seems unlikely there will be a better situation for him anywhere else from a team that would be willing to throw the kind of money it would take to get him.

Also didn't the new CBA kinda limit the way teams could structure the RFA offers and basically let the matching team to accept the deal and keep the total money the same but adjust how it was spread out?
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Camden0916 wrote:Glenn Robinson III is going to be a steal for somebody in free agency. With how loaded this roster is at the two, I could form an argument that he'd have more value here than Jaylen Nowell in the present and future. And that's while acknowledging that I think Nowell is an intriguing young talent and I was cool with Minnesota drafting him last year.


He is a solid player he can help a team as a complimentary guy. He is or is turning into the guy I envisioned him when I wanted the wolves to draft him...and they did and let him go.
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Camden wrote:Glenn Robinson III is going to be a steal for somebody in free agency. With how loaded this roster is at the two, I could form an argument that he'd have more value here than Jaylen Nowell in the present and future. And that's while acknowledging that I think Nowell is an intriguing young talent and I was cool with Minnesota drafting him last year.


I'm fine with that. I watch a lot of Warriors games and GR3 looked good last year. Nowell shot real poor in his 15 or so games in the NBA and with the glut of guards, I expect he'd rarely see the floor. I haven't written him off, but you can't have too many developmental players eating roster space. He probably should go to a team like OKC that is not in "win now" mode. He's expendable.
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KG4Ever wrote:
Camden wrote:Glenn Robinson III is going to be a steal for somebody in free agency. With how loaded this roster is at the two, I could form an argument that he'd have more value here than Jaylen Nowell in the present and future. And that's while acknowledging that I think Nowell is an intriguing young talent and I was cool with Minnesota drafting him last year.


I'm fine with that. I watch a lot of Warriors games and GR3 looked good last year. Nowell shot real poor in his 15 or so games in the NBA and with the glut of guards, I expect he'd rarely see the floor. I haven't written him off, but you can't have too many developmental players eating roster space. He probably should go to a team like OKC that is not in "win now" mode. He's expendable.


Nowell shot almost 50% from the floor and over 44% in the G-league. He was a rookie and turned 21 in July. Yes he didn't shoot the 3 well In a handful of games but in that sample size he also shot nearly 60% from 2 point range (over 50% from every zone distance on Basketball Reference) and 94% from the FT line (at a promising FT rate). He also had a pretty nice assist rate and almost never turned the ball over. I've been a GR3 fan for what seems like a small lifetime now but just dumping Nowell right now might be a bigger mistake than letting go of GR3 about halfway through his rookie year (which he shot poorly) for Justin Hamilton.
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