Realistic Trades for #7

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Why would we trade a top 7 to the Celtics so they can buy a championship, and for us to get a 6'2" pg in Avery Bradley? Boston has too much mid range talent and too many top picks coming in. We help them, not us I am thinking.
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kekgeek1 wrote:
monsterpile wrote:
kekgeek1 wrote:Wouldn't #7 for bradley make sense for both teams if isaac is off the board

Or a gorgui for bradley trade


Bradley?


Avery


Ah ok. What do you think the Celtics would be targeting with #7? I think they would have to really like a guy there because two way guards are worth a lot in this league.
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monsterpile wrote:
kekgeek1 wrote:
monsterpile wrote:
kekgeek1 wrote:Wouldn't #7 for bradley make sense for both teams if isaac is off the board

Or a gorgui for bradley trade


Bradley?


Avery


Ah ok. What do you think the Celtics would be targeting with #7? I think they would have to really like a guy there because two way guards are worth a lot in this league.


I think it is more of a value money cut. If they get Hayward the will have 2 max players in horford and Hayward. Then thomas, smart and bradley are all going to get 20+ million next year than crowder the next year.

Bradley is one of those elite role players and super underrated. Of course there is risk him being a free agent next year but he is honestly the perfect player to play sg for us

https://sports.yahoo.com/news/celtics-avery-bradley-claims-his-title-nbas-most-underrated-player-051745886.html
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kekgeek1 wrote:
monsterpile wrote:
kekgeek1 wrote:
monsterpile wrote:
kekgeek1 wrote:Wouldn't #7 for bradley make sense for both teams if isaac is off the board

Or a gorgui for bradley trade


Bradley?


Avery


Ah ok. What do you think the Celtics would be targeting with #7? I think they would have to really like a guy there because two way guards are worth a lot in this league.


I think it is more of a value money cut. If they get Hayward the will have 2 max players in horford and Hayward. Then thomas, smart and bradley are all going to get 20+ million next year than crowder the next year.

Bradley is one of those elite role players and super underrated. Of course there is risk him being a free agent next year but he is honestly the perfect player to play sg for us

https://sports.yahoo.com/news/celtics-avery-bradley-claims-his-title-nbas-most-underrated-player-051745886.html


I don't see either team doing that deal. Why? The Celtics don't really need more young players and picks because if they get Hayward they would be much closer to be contenders and this is the Celtics they probably are willing to go into the lux tax if they want to keep Bradley. Sure #7 might be the best return they could hope to get for Bradley but as you point out he is a good player. For the Wolves...do they trade this pick to get Bradley for a year before having to pay him a near max deal? It's one of those deals that to some extent is probably a fair value but I personally don't see it happening.
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TeamRicky wrote:
thedoper wrote:On the realistic front it would have to be another team hovering in no man's land, likely in the east. How about Dragic and the 14 for Ricky and the 7? Would probably never happen but that is as close to a slight advantage for us that I could get to.


And why would we give up both the better draft pick and the better and younger player. Doper, are you related to David Kahn?


Please stop.
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rapsuperstar31 wrote:Maybe not necessarily realistic but something like this
Boston out 1 and Crowder
In Butler
Chicago out Bulter
IN 1 and 7
Minnesota out 7
IN Crowder

Or what about our year after year favorite number, 7 straight up for Aaron Gordon (looked pretty good once they got ride of Ibaka.

whoever we pick traded to Utah in the off season with Utah extending Favors before sending him over.


Favors makes a lot of money, and Gordon will get a good offer if for no other reason than entertainment value.
Philosophically, I believe MIN's best move in terms of KAT is use him as a stretch 4 with a true 5 next to him. So either keep the #7 and use it on Zach Collins or trade down no further than #10 and use that pick for him. I love the Crowder idea. Very team friendly deal in place, and AW's SG minutes have always been better than his SF.

Note: I watched basically none of the tournament this year (what can I say, Wild fever, which was quickly cured), so if you are Anti-Collins you may be right. Just try to type something intelligent, unlike the idiot who decided Pau Gasol was overrated on last years' thread of this kind. At least nobody has suggested we go get NYN/DAL/SAC 13th best players, so things are improving, but there's still time I guess.
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CoolBreeze44 wrote:Do not sign PJ Tucker. He's 32 years old and showing big time signs of slowing down. He couldn't stay in shape this year, and thus couldn't stay in front of anybody. He would be an instantly regrettable signing.


The Tucker signing is OK at low money. What is a "Super-Extreme DUI"? Is that like playing beer pong while driving? And as Viking fans, is it OK that we're concerned about Floyd but not Tucker?
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lipoli390 wrote:Another thought. If the Spurs really do pursue Chris Paul, they'll have to clear a lot of cap space. That would put Dedmon in play as a possible FA for the Wolves. Thibs has identified interior defense and shot-blocking as to major needs and Dedmon would help there.

Again on Tucker. As Cool said, he's on the backside of an average career. I'll add that his career is one of intangibles. So hard to know exactly what you're getting. There are better choices that give us tangibles that we really need -- like Redick and his 3-point shooting. There are cheaper alternative defensive specialists on the backsides of average careers -- like Sefalosha. There are needle-moving vets like Millsap and Ibaka who will be max or near max players.


Not against Dedmon. But remember, Dedmon is a Chip Engelland All-star. Will be an offensive liability in MIN that would put Dan Garett to shame. Money MUST be reasonable.
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Camden wrote:I can't get really behind Gallo for the price he'll command on the open market. He provides scoring and floor spacing at a premium position (SF/PF), which is nice, but I fail to see how he helps fix any of the Wolves problems, such as team defense and rebounding on the defensive end. Gallo is weak at both facets of the game. That's not even mentioning his inability to stay healthy for more than 60 or so games per year.


It's early, and the cap is only going from $94m to $102m. Maybe nobody likes him that much. I don't see how you can be concerned about his health but other teams won't be. Are Isiah Thomas and John Gabriel GM's again?
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JasonIsDaMan wrote:
CoolBreeze44 wrote:Do not sign PJ Tucker. He's 32 years old and showing big time signs of slowing down. He couldn't stay in shape this year, and thus couldn't stay in front of anybody. He would be an instantly regrettable signing.


The Tucker signing is OK at low money. What is a "Super-Extreme DUI"? Is that like playing beer pong while driving? And as Viking fans, is it OK that we're concerned about Floyd but not Tucker?


Same extreme as Floyd's DUI. 2.21 level or something like that but at least he was awake when they pulled him over I guess. For Tucker that was a few years ago so...maybe it's far enough in the rear view mirror or he has shown some really legit turnaround or maybe he hasn't. I have no idea.
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