Wolves Free Agent Focuses

[Crazysauce]

Im starting to think we junped the gun on signing teague for that much. Sounds like lowry is begging for someone to sign him. Toronto sounds like they may want to go young and the market for pgs and especially with that much money seems rather dry. In supply and demand these guys dont seem to have many offers and o fear we are bidding against nobody on these deals.

[Lipoli390]

Hear reddick can be had for 16 mill per. Deal or no deal?

No Deal for me. That's more than Dieng for an aging bench player who's going to become a worse Korver in the next few years. JJ's 33 going on 34. How does that not just become Dunleavy in the next year or 2 on a 3-4 year deal? Way too much money for someone who's gonna be sitting on the bench to close games.

Not that it would change your mind but JJ turned 33 a couple days ago.

If he could run the point I'd be all on board. But he can't. He's a 33 year old undersized, short armed 2. I just don't see how anything other than his shooting ages well in this league and the debate is if that is worth 16 million dollars. That's just not. What kind of shooting specialists are getting 16 million per year this late in their careers? That would be a massive overpay for a guy who could be ineffective any day now outside of shooting.

Well said, Kahns. I agree with you completely on this. I wonder if Joe Ingles is in play for us. If so, he's the guy we should be targeting now since we passed on Tony Snell. A less costly alternative would be Darren Collison.

I see JJ as a pretty good starter level player. I think he is actually a pretty solid defender much better than Korver ever was. The Wolves need shooting and he is the best shooter you can get. Now the question I would have the way I value him is if it is the best use of our resources. It depends on what it costs to get a different player. If it only costs a couple million per to get JJ I would rather do that than get some role player than to some extent gets overrated. We will see.

Monster -- I think you've framed the analysis well. It does depend on the cost of other FA i options. My problem would be giving him 3-4 years. I'd hate to be stuck with a 36-year old Redick at $16 million per year.

We should consider the possible negatives of both players. What if Snell isn't the player he was with the Bucks and he is basically just a decent bench player? I'd take the chance but just sayin.

You never really know what you have in a player until he plays for you. But Snell's been around long enough for us to have a very good sense of the player we'd be getting, But I guess we have to trust Thibs' judgment on this as someone who knows Snell. For all we know, Thibs explored the possibility but Snell can't stand Thibs and had no interest. Or maybe Thibs has reasons that aren't apparent for not liking Snell's game or his fit for the Wolves.

[khans2k5 [enjin:6608728]]

Im starting to think we junped the gun on signing teague for that much. Sounds like lowry is begging for someone to sign him. Toronto sounds like they may want to go young and the market for pgs and especially with that much money seems rather dry. In supply and demand these guys dont seem to have many offers and o fear we are bidding against nobody on these deals.

If we were still in the market for Lowry his salary wouldn't be dropping. It's only dropping now after the market is gone. As long as 2 teams could have paid him his number was never really going to drop.

[Monster]

Im starting to think we junped the gun on signing teague for that much. Sounds like lowry is begging for someone to sign him. Toronto sounds like they may want to go young and the market for pgs and especially with that much money seems rather dry. In supply and demand these guys dont seem to have many offers and o fear we are bidding against nobody on these deals.

I think the Wolves could have waited but they did the Rubio deal now before the end of the current year and so they probably wanted to move a little more quickly since they didn't have a guy. That may have been part of why they asked for a 1st rounder plus they may have told them Glen wouldn't do the deal without the 1st rounder...which may have been true. Thanks Glen! Lol I think the cheapest they could have reasonably gotten Teague for was 16 million per and maybe the Knicks would have drove up the price a bit. I like the 3rd year player option considering the Wolves possible cap situation that year. Lowry is gonna go somewhere and get a decent chunk of money.

[Crazysauce]

So if lowry signs for 18 million should we have waited? Havent looked but do that many teams that are competing really have that much money to throw around without getting to the lux tax area?

[Lipoli390]

Im starting to think we junped the gun on signing teague for that much. Sounds like lowry is begging for someone to sign him. Toronto sounds like they may want to go young and the market for pgs and especially with that much money seems rather dry. In supply and demand these guys dont seem to have many offers and o fear we are bidding against nobody on these deals.

If we were still in the market for Lowry his salary wouldn't be dropping. It's only dropping now after the market is gone. As long as 2 teams could have paid him his number was never really going to drop.

I agree with Kahns on this. Ultimately, I expect Lowry to sign for more than $19 million per year. Will it be $29 million as some were projecting? Maybe not. I'll predict that he signs for $24 million. I'll take the additional $5 million in cap space and the somewhat younger and very durable Teague. I'm not convinced that Thibs had Lowry ahead of Teague on his PG list. We'll never know, but I get the sense Thibs really wanted Teague and wasn't going to take any risk of him signing elsewhere.

[60WinTim]

I didn't think Milsap was a realistic target because we need money to get at least one decent backup wing and fill out the bench. But I am starting to realize that Thibs' focus is to create the best start 5 that he can, and fill out the bench later. And Dieng is the low man on the "starting 5 totem pole". I suppose if the starting 5 looks solid enough, decent guys will be willing to come in for a vet minimum contract...

[Coolbreeze44]

I didn't think Milsap was a realistic target because we need money to get at least one decent backup wing and fill out the bench. But I am starting to realize that Thibs' focus is to create the best start 5 that he can, and fill out the bench later. And Dieng is the low man on the "starting 5 totem pole". I suppose if the starting 5 looks solid enough, decent guys will be willing to come in for a vet minimum contract...

Good point Tim. Thibs track record is to play his starters a ton of minutes so he better have a good 5. I could not imagine a T-Wolves starting lineup featuring those 5 guys. Maybe on some other team, but not our puppies.

[khans2k5 [enjin:6608728]]

I didn't think Milsap was a realistic target because we need money to get at least one decent backup wing and fill out the bench. But I am starting to realize that Thibs' focus is to create the best start 5 that he can, and fill out the bench later. And Dieng is the low man on the "starting 5 totem pole". I suppose if the starting 5 looks solid enough, decent guys will be willing to come in for a vet minimum contract...

If we could get Milsap that would be huge. It usually takes an extra year to add the good depth guys with the exceptions anyway. Bring back Rush, Casspi and maybe get Thabo for the vet minimums. He's not the greatest stretch 4, but we could really use his defense in the frontcourt. I'd do the same 2+1 deal for him we did for Teague so we can pick how we want to spend our cap space in 2 summers and maybe a guy like Milsap takes less to keep the band together at that point in his career. There is a place for great defensive teams who aren't jacking up 3's in this league. The Spurs were the second best team in the league and they did it with defense, mid-range shooting and some 3pt shooting. We could be built in a similar way with Milsap.

[rapsuperstar31]

Just throwing out players. It's been pretty quite on the Ibaka, Mirotic, Jamychal Green front. Would have interest in Green if the price isn't too high and gave us some flexibility. I'd image Dunleavy can be had for somewhere near the vet min. Mclemore is also someone I would kick the tires on if he can be had cheap. Wonder if Sac is ready to move on from WCS would be a cheap option for maybe the OKC draft pick and taking on Cole. Need my news fix waiting to hear how the Milsap meetings go!