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CoolBreeze44 wrote:Can't believe I'm saying this, but with Matt Barnes about to be released the Wolves should consider him. He's almost exactly what we need to make a playoff push this year. He would provide a much needed edge and hopefully rub off on some of our softer stars. I hate the guy, but he would make a difference this year.


Yep he is the type of the the Wolves have needed for years. People hate the guy but he can give a team something. He will probably go to a playoff team/contender. Hey we could be a playoff team right?

Jon K answered a question about who were the tough guys on the Wolves. He said probably the only guy you wouldn't really want to mess with is Dunn and then Lance. He said everyone else just isn't that type of guy. Barnes is that type of guy. Hell sometimes I miss Ryan Hollins or Steimsma those guys were willing to mix it up. Aldrich will dish out a foul here or there but he isn't an enforcer or anything like that.
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Of course, the Wolves could simply claim Barnes off the waiver wire. It would cost them nothing because they would simply use money there were going to have to throw away to reach the minimum salary floor.

Of course, I am not sure Barnes would be too happy...

Thibs choice was to add Lance. But the 10-day contract has expired, and we don't know how bad his ankle sprain is. Claiming Barnes might be the better option!

[Edit: Never mind. I did not realize Barnes was 36 and is more of a 3/4 compared to Lance in his 20s and more of a 2/3. ]
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The Cousins trade means there is one less team vying for that 8th playoff seed. They will be tanking to get the best pick possible in a strong draft. We have two games left against them too, so hopefully we win both now.

However....New Orleans...sigh.......Holiday, Cousins, and Davis is a formidable trio. The trade should further weaken what was already a pretty weak wing rotation, so the strategy will be to clog the paint, collapse on Davis/Cousins and hope like hell their wings can't shoot straight.
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Q12543 wrote:The Cousins trade means there is one less team vying for that 8th playoff seed. They will be tanking to get the best pick possible in a strong draft. We have two games left against them too, so hopefully we win both now.

However....New Orleans...sigh.......Holiday, Cousins, and Davis is a formidable trio. The trade should further weaken what was already a pretty weak wing rotation, so the strategy will be to clog the paint, collapse on Davis/Cousins and hope like hell their wings can't shoot straight.


Yeah, I suspect the Kings are out of the running...but I predict the Pellies are too. Not many teams that start the likes of E'Twaun Moore and Solomon Moore (not to mention a terribly weak bench) challenge for a playoff spot...especially when they have added a guy who hasn't had a very good winning percentage in his career despite great individual stats. If the Wolves didn't have such a brutal schedule, I would say this deal would have really been good news for them...as it stands, I see it as really good news for Denver, Portland and maybe Dallas.
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longstrangetrip wrote:
Q12543 wrote:The Cousins trade means there is one less team vying for that 8th playoff seed. They will be tanking to get the best pick possible in a strong draft. We have two games left against them too, so hopefully we win both now.

However....New Orleans...sigh.......Holiday, Cousins, and Davis is a formidable trio. The trade should further weaken what was already a pretty weak wing rotation, so the strategy will be to clog the paint, collapse on Davis/Cousins and hope like hell their wings can't shoot straight.


Yeah, I suspect the Kings are out of the running...but I predict the Pellies are too. Not many teams that start the likes of E'Twaun Moore and Solomon Moore (not to mention a terribly weak bench) challenge for a playoff spot...especially when they have added a guy who hasn't had a very good winning percentage in his career despite great individual stats. If the Wolves didn't have such a brutal schedule, I would say this deal would have really been good news for them...as it stands, I see it as really good news for Denver, Portland and maybe Dallas.


Keep in mind that the 8th seed is a different animal this year in the West. You don't necessarily need to win 41+ games to snag that spot this year and New Orleans might just be able to do it on the talent of those three guys alone.

As for the Wolves, our odds were long to begin with. I guess my point is that whatever advantage we gain by Sacramento falling off, we lose with the strengthening of New Orleans (IMO).
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Yeah, Q, I actually think 37 or 38 wins gets the 8th seed this year. The problem is nobody here has shot any holes in your game-by-game analysis which puts the Wolves at 30, so there's just way too much ground to make up. It's just not realistic to expect 7 or 8 clear upsets the remainder of the season with so few games left.

As for the Pellies, it comes down to this...does Boogie make a team better or worse? There's a career full of evidence that he doesn't make a team a winner, and only a hope and a prayer that he can change his style in NO and become a winner. He can be a dominant force and certainly is a stat stuffer, but I think the Pels are going to end up regretting this move. I think you need three-point shooting to win in this league, and they will be the worst 3-point shooting team in the league now, unless some guys who haven't had much 3-point success in their careers suddenly develop that part of their game.
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Wolves reportedly after Rose
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Wolves gained a half game tonight 3 back
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longstrangetrip wrote:Yeah, Q, I actually think 37 or 38 wins gets the 8th seed this year. The problem is nobody here has shot any holes in your game-by-game analysis which puts the Wolves at 30, so there's just way too much ground to make up. It's just not realistic to expect 7 or 8 clear upsets the remainder of the season with so few games left.


OK, I'll make a desperate attempt to give some hope for you. I think upcoming nine game stretch is really important for our team. If we could get some surprise wins, we might have a change to get back to battle of last playoff spot. Below are our remaining games and results that I'm expecting (hoping in some cases):

Dallas - W - I think this is really important game for us since Dallas has been lately the hottest team of those that are still competing about last playoff spot. I'll hope that adding Noel will have a negative effect for them at least in first game and Wolves will get a win.
@ Houston - W/L After their loss to Wolves, Houston has not looked that good. They have had record 10-9 after that and Memphis has been only good team that they have won. So I see that Wolves could have a change for surprise win here. We just should not let their shooters to get as hot as they were tonight against New Orleans.
@ Sacramento - W This should be a win after Boogie trade even tough Sacramento looked much better against Denver than I expected.
@ Utah - W/L Utah has struggled this year mainly against teams that feature center with three point shot. They have lost twice to Memphis, once to Dallas (with Dirk as a center), once to Denver and twice to Boston. So it seems that the key is to have a big that can force Gobert to follow him out of the paint. This is one game where I wouldn't mind if Towns spends more time behind three point line and Thibbs to pair him more often with Belly. This also 2nd game of back to back for Utah. So I see some change for a surprise win here too.
@ San Antonio - L 3rd game for four nights and latter one of back to back. Maybe Popo rests his starters and Wolves could have a chance...
Portland - W Portland is one team that we have change to catch by just winning our remaining three games against them. Lillard and McCollum just seem to be too clutch but
Clippers - W If Clippers are still missing Chris Paul as they should be, we have a good chance to get this one since Clippers have just 8-12 record without him.
Warriors - L Probably Wolves only chance is that Golden State has already their mind in next days game against San Antonio.
@ Milwaukee - W/L This is a tricky one. Bucks have been really struggling lately and they are missing Parker but Middleton is back and is maybe not that rusty anymore. I'll keep Q:s original prediction.
Washington - L Washington has been playing great lately and they added Bogdanovic to strenghten their bench. I'm pretty sure Wall will make him to look Korver level three point shooter.
@ Boston - L Difficult to find any reason for hope against Boston.
@ Miami - W/L Miami's winning streak ended and I expect that they won't continue to play as well as during that streak. I also won't expect that they would hit again 15 three pointers against us. Should be winnable game for Wolves.
@ New Orleans - W/L This one won't be easy even tough New Orleans could really use more outside shooting. Both Boogie and Davis have had monster games against Wolves in past.
San Antonio - L I have no idea why this was a win in Q's list. Unless San Antonio rests all starters I don't see them losing.[left][/left]
@ Lakers - W Lakers traded their best scorer and I expect that they start tanking to have more hope to keep their pick next summer. (they lose it if it's not top3)
@ Portland - L 2nd game of back to back for us. Most probably loss even tough win would put us probably ahead of Portland.
@ Indiana - L Indiana has been really erratic this season. On good day they can win whatever team (wins against Clipper with CP3 twice and Houston and losses to Philly & Brooklyn) but they have played much better at home. So probably loss for Wolves.
Lakers - W See previous Lakers game
Sacramento - W See previous Sacramento game
@ Golden State - L Only chance would be that this is already meaningless game for Golden State and they rest some of their starters.
@ Portland - W/L I think this is a game that we have to win to have a any hope for playoffs.
@ Utah - L Second game of back to back for us. Probably no chance.
@ Lakers - W See previous Lakers game
OKC - W/L Hopefully this is already meaningless game for OKC and they would rest Westbrook.
@ Houston - W I expect that this is meaningless game to Houston. They have secured 3rd seed before last game and I expect them to rest Harden.

So my optimistic estimate would have 31-38 wins for Wolves. If they could win 5 out of 7 W/L marked games, they would end up with 36 wins. That might still not be enough for playoffs since Dallas has quite easy schedule and they have been playing quite well lately.
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Nice work as usual Mikkeman.Boy, A LOT has to go right for us and wrong for others to make a playoff push!
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