Martin Officially on the Trading Block

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The irony is that Martin at 7 million next year will end up being perfectly reasonable and of course teams LOVE that magical flexibility more than getting something that's nearly sure of being useful and in this case that's Martin. My guess is he gets moved to someone the Wolves are going to try and get the best deal they can and someone will want him considering they can likely get him for very little. Like someone said Houston has been able to acquire players that are useful vets for next to nothing. They might be a team that does just that if They would be interested. The biggest hinderence to Martin being moved likely is just that teams can't just absorb his salary or have the right match to send something back. I'll honestly be surprised if he isn't dealt.
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At this point, and with the makeup of this team, I'd be happy to just be rid of him without any cost to the Wolves. No Wes Johnson, here's a pick, take him deals, obviously. If they could get a single 2nd back in return, or even an expiring contract I'll smile and say well done!
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TheSP wrote:At this point, and with the makeup of this team, I'd be happy to just be rid of him without any cost to the Wolves. No Wes Johnson, here's a pick, take him deals, obviously. If they could get a single 2nd back in return, or even an expiring contract I'll smile and say well done!


Yeah I'd live with that too but I also think it's possible the Wolves may not be THAT desperate to move him. They could just sit him most nights the rest of the season and see what happens after the season. If he wants his 7 million money next year he could opt in and they could move him like they did with Bud. If teams made moves for guys like Mo and Brewer I think someone will find Martin useful enough to make something happen. It may need to be a multi team trade with a team under the cap helping it happen but yeah.
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Monster. I dont see any team offering martin 7million next year even with the salary cap jump. That is why martin won't opt out next year and wont agree to opt out if a team demands that of him for them to agree to take him in a trade.

Many here keep bringing up a playoff team willing to take him. But martin suck this year and even when he was good, he was never a player that move the needle for a team. He has always been a player that hunt for his shot and is out to get his. Adding martin wont make a playoff team become a championship contender or help a team win a series. His 7m contract is hard for a playoff team to absorb anyway without giving up a rotation guy.

That is why chances of martin being traded is low. His value is that of a 2nd pick with a guarantee that he will opt out next year so 7m wont count as salary for the team getting him next year. A buyout is a more likely scenario unless we package him in a deal with the young guys.
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Martin's making at least $7M next year whether it's with the Timberwolves or if he opts out and signs with another team.
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worldK wrote:Monster. I dont see any team offering martin 7million next year even with the salary cap jump. That is why martin won't opt out next year and wont agree to opt out if a team demands that of him for them to agree to take him in a trade.

Many here keep bringing up a playoff team willing to take him. But martin suck this year and even when he was good, he was never a player that move the needle for a team. He has always been a player that hunt for his shot and is out to get his. Adding martin wont make a playoff team become a championship contender or help a team win a series. His 7m contract is hard for a playoff team to absorb anyway without giving up a rotation guy.

That is why chances of martin being traded is low. His value is that of a 2nd pick with a guarantee that he will opt out next year so 7m wont count as salary for the team getting him next year. A buyout is a more likely scenario unless we package him in a deal with the young guys.


You completely missed my point. Next summer just watch all the players signed for around that 7 million that Martin can opt into and it will look perfectly reasonable. Is Martin the missing piece for some team? Unlikely but you can't tell me he isn't better than a bunch of these scoring dudes teams trade for every deadline hoping for lightning in a bottle or whatever. Martin has sucked this year but still shooting over 36% from 3. Some team will hope that number goes up and Martin has the resume that makes it reasonable to hope for that.
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Just read on ESPN that we've turned down salary dumps for Martin. At this point you have to wonder why we are keeping him and paying him when we are clearly better off without him? A pick would be nice, but if I'm Glenn I say dump him so I don't have to pay him the rest of the year to ride the bench. We're clearly not bringing him back next year either and I'm sure he's opting out of his deal so he can go somewhere he'll play and possibly contend.
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khans2k5 wrote:Just read on ESPN that we've turned down salary dumps for Martin. At this point you have to wonder why we are keeping him and paying him when we are clearly better off without him? A pick would be nice, but if I'm Glenn I say dump him so I don't have to pay him the rest of the year to ride the bench. We're clearly not bringing him back next year either and I'm sure he's opting out of his deal so he can go somewhere he'll play and possibly contend.


If today were the trade deadline I would agree with you 100%. Until such time though I see no reason to jump the gun, ask for something of value in return or don't trade. When the trade deadline comes deal him to the first team to ask so long as nothing negative comes back in return.
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khans2k5 wrote:Just read on ESPN that we've turned down salary dumps for Martin. At this point you have to wonder why we are keeping him and paying him when we are clearly better off without him? A pick would be nice, but if I'm Glenn I say dump him so I don't have to pay him the rest of the year to ride the bench. We're clearly not bringing him back next year either and I'm sure he's opting out of his deal so he can go somewhere he'll play and possibly contend.



I like that the Wolves aren't being pushovers (yet). They've helped out plenty of teams with "be nice to the veterans" types of moves. There's still time for that with Martin and to get SOMETHING, even if it's pretty minor.
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AbeVigodaLive wrote:
khans2k5 wrote:Just read on ESPN that we've turned down salary dumps for Martin. At this point you have to wonder why we are keeping him and paying him when we are clearly better off without him? A pick would be nice, but if I'm Glenn I say dump him so I don't have to pay him the rest of the year to ride the bench. We're clearly not bringing him back next year either and I'm sure he's opting out of his deal so he can go somewhere he'll play and possibly contend.



I like that the Wolves aren't being pushovers (yet). They've helped out plenty of teams with "be nice to the veterans" types of moves. There's still time for that with Martin and to get SOMETHING, even if it's pretty minor.


AP guy has said Milt is not the least bit of a pushover and they may as well hold out for something. They have already sat Martin a bunch they could probably keep doing that the rest of the season if it came to that. I think they would rather find him a spot somewhere even if they got nothing than just have him sit.
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