Garnett out tonight - GDT For Tim

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It's over. It's done with... Garnett is here. And there's no organization in the NBA that values Garnett more than the Wolves... for obvious reasons. He's filling seats, at least for a little while. I think his impact on a bunch of young guys on a 60+ loss team while playing maybe 1/2 of the final 30 games is vastly overrated though.

Back to the mid-round pick. It's not necessarily who the Wolves are landing with the mid-round pick as much as how much value other teams might have for that pick down the line. I remember the Ndudi Ebi/Joe Smith fiasco well. There's no guarantee that the Wolves were going to land much of anything drafting #18 - 25. But that wasn't necessarily the point. They had no chance to (1) get lucky (2) build some depth for cheap (3) trade the pick in other deals.

Those picks carry value -- from some team. They shouldn't be regarded lightly. For example, the Wolves would benefit greatly from Vucevic right now... or even Stephen Adams.

[alexftbl8181 [enjin:6648741]]

Khan, you need to break that shit up into paragraphs, but to your points.

The Wolves are barely on the map as it is. Why? Because of countless front office mistakes. Did KG turn the Nets into a winning franchise? Was it KG's mentorship and leadership that led Boston to a title or was it his play on the court?

The fact that Flip brought in these run of the mill vets you speak of shows that he's not thinking long term for this franchise? Does he really have pressure into making sure the Wolves are good long term, because he has about the safest job security you can possibly get.

You know what changes a culture into a winning one? Good players. Wiggins was going to be good wither he had KG screaming in his ear or Mark Madsen.

Players are important but I don't see how Thad Young or a mid-first round pick in this draft are the level of players needed to make a difference for this franchise moving forward and that was the opportunity cost of getting KG. You get Thad, a mid-first round pick or KG. Which has the biggest impact on this team's future? I think its KG. Wiggins was going to become a good player regardless, but what about Payne, Dieng, Lavine, AB, Bazz? I think they are all better off with KG on this team rather than Thad or a mid-first round pick and that's what matters moving forward.

Really? Do you know whose a mid round pick? The current finals MVP. I'd rather have him over KG. I believe Giannis was the 15th pick as well. I would also rather have him then KG, but hey if you say KG will have a bigger impact in the future then those guys, then I can't help you

Did you even see my previous post about the 12th and 16th picks the past six years which is where we would have picked this year depending on if Miami makes the playoffs or not? The list was literally 50/50 if the player was a rotation player in the league or a bust. You mention some exceptions, but it is a 50/50 shot the guy even becomes something in this league based on the last 6 years. KG is a known commodity. You can have your 50% chance the player even becomes worthwhile at that draft spot. I'm going to take the known commodity and not have to flip a coin and pray the pick is in the right 50%.

Oh man, by that logic we better not get the number 2 pick then. I think half of those picks in the past 10 years were busts, better trade down to 3 to be safe