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Re: Hawks@Wolves - GDT
Posted: Fri Dec 28, 2018 10:25 pm
by TheFuture
thedoper wrote:Q12543 wrote:What makes Wiggins so hard to have on our team is that as our former #1 pick and max contract player, no one is willing to admit (including Wiggins and his agent) that he should really be a role player with very narrow responsibilities.
He's being utilized that way in the gameplan. The problem is his athleticism is beyond his basketball skills, so he gets good looks that he has to take. Either way it's frustrating all around. He just can't make shots, wide open 3s and free throws should be where any player can seemingly grow.
He can't shoot, he can't dribble, his vision is shit thus his passing is shit, his IQ on both ends is subpar, his reaction time is terrible,his defense is subpar, his hands are terrible, his athleticism is 99 percentile, yet he never utilizes it. He shows zero emotion. There is nothing he is actually good at. He is defeated in his own head, it is that simple. He is not confident. I highly doubt he overcomes that at this age.
Place him on the bench, and make him put up or shut up for 25+ mil per year.
Re: Hawks@Wolves - GDT
Posted: Fri Dec 28, 2018 10:29 pm
by thedoper
TheFuture wrote:thedoper wrote:Q12543 wrote:What makes Wiggins so hard to have on our team is that as our former #1 pick and max contract player, no one is willing to admit (including Wiggins and his agent) that he should really be a role player with very narrow responsibilities.
He's being utilized that way in the gameplan. The problem is his athleticism is beyond his basketball skills, so he gets good looks that he has to take. Either way it's frustrating all around. He just can't make shots, wide open 3s and free throws should be where any player can seemingly grow.
He can't shoot, he can't dribble, his vision is shit thus his passing is shit, his IQ on both ends is subpar, his reaction time is terrible,his defense is subpar, his hands are terrible, his athleticism is 99 percentile, yet he never utilizes it. He shows zero emotion. There is nothing he is actually good at. He is defeated in his own head, it is that simple. He is not confident. I highly doubt he overcomes that at this age.
Place him on the bench, and make him put up or shut up for 25+ mil per year.
How do you really feel? Haha. Let it out. I'd give you a hug if I could man, I hope your tears help.
Re: Hawks@Wolves - GDT
Posted: Fri Dec 28, 2018 10:30 pm
by 60WinTim
He obviously doesn't believe he deserves the boos...
Jon Krawczynski @JonKrawczynski
3m3 minutes ago
Wiggins on the boos: "That's fans for you. We've got some shitty fans and we've got some good fans. That's just how it works."
Re: Hawks@Wolves - GDT
Posted: Fri Dec 28, 2018 10:31 pm
by crazy-canuck [enjin:18955461]
People will single out wiggs and some of the other players, but we just seemed to be not mentally prepared to play tonight.
Re: Hawks@Wolves - GDT
Posted: Fri Dec 28, 2018 10:38 pm
by thedoper
crazy-canuck wrote:People will single out wiggs and some of the other players, but we just seemed to be not mentally prepared to play tonight.
I'll say. 42 points in the first quarter is why we lost.
Re: Hawks@Wolves - GDT
Posted: Fri Dec 28, 2018 10:41 pm
by BizarroJerry [enjin:6592520]
60WinTim wrote:He obviously doesn't believe he deserves the boos...
Jon Krawczynski @JonKrawczynski
3m3 minutes ago
Wiggins on the boos: "That's fans for you. We've got some shitty fans and we've got some good fans. That's just how it works."
Wow. Shitty fans huh? He was never a wordsmith.
Re: Hawks@Wolves - GDT
Posted: Fri Dec 28, 2018 10:42 pm
by TAFKASP
BizarroJerry wrote:60WinTim wrote:He obviously doesn't believe he deserves the boos...
Jon Krawczynski @JonKrawczynski
3m3 minutes ago
Wiggins on the boos: "That's fans for you. We've got some shitty fans and we've got some good fans. That's just how it works."
Wow. Shitty fans huh? He was never a wordsmith.
Other than pissing off fans, name one thing he excels at?
Re: Hawks@Wolves - GDT
Posted: Fri Dec 28, 2018 10:43 pm
by kekgeek
BizarroJerry wrote:60WinTim wrote:He obviously doesn't believe he deserves the boos...
Jon Krawczynski @JonKrawczynski
3m3 minutes ago
Wiggins on the boos: "That's fans for you. We've got some shitty fans and we've got some good fans. That's just how it works."
Wow. Shitty fans huh? He was never a wordsmith.
I mean he isn't wrong here
Re: Hawks@Wolves - GDT
Posted: Fri Dec 28, 2018 11:24 pm
by longstrangetrip [enjin:6600564]
Q12543 wrote:Why was Okogie even out there!? That was a good no-call by the official. He should have just shot the clean shot rather than trying to jump into the defender. Just dumb, but it's on Thibs for having the rookie out there.
Well, obviously because we needed a three to tie, and Josh is the...what? 14th best 3-point shooter on the team at 27%? Really?
Assuming your question isn't rhetorical, the answer can only be "because Thibs is our coach".
Re: Hawks@Wolves - GDT
Posted: Fri Dec 28, 2018 11:35 pm
by crazy-canuck [enjin:18955461]
longstrangetrip wrote:Q12543 wrote:Why was Okogie even out there!? That was a good no-call by the official. He should have just shot the clean shot rather than trying to jump into the defender. Just dumb, but it's on Thibs for having the rookie out there.
Well, obviously because we needed a three to tie, and Josh is the...what? 14th best 3-point shooter on the team at 27%? Really?
Assuming your question isn't rhetorical, the answer can only be "because Thibs is our coach".
Just weird all round.
He couldn't trust saric to inbound the ball, so wiggs did it. But then that leaves 2 bigs as your only 3 pt shooters when u need a quick hitter.
Tyus and okogie, neither should have been on the floor.