thedoper wrote:Fuck man. I was on KAT the whole game. Dlo's pull up and wide open miss were big shot decisions. Like I said, Dlo played well. He called his own number along with Towns and not Ant. Hes not the reason we lost but I didnt see him looking to feed Ant when it mattered. Chill.
Don't give me that. Anthony Edwards calls his own number possession after possession, game after game -- for better or worse. And yet he still took seven shots in the fourth quarter! So much for being frozen out of the game. He got his opportunities, including his own missed three-point attempt(s) late.
I'd also add that Ant needs to get a lot better moving without the basketball. We can't logically ask for teammates to find him when he doesn't consistently make himself available relocating on the perimeter or cutting to the basket. It's a two-way street. He can't rely on Chris Finch to run isolation after isolation for him and stall ball movement in the process. If he wants the ball, then he needs to earn it, and go get it.
The difference is that Ant should be. That is the point. When games are tight and iso ball takes over we have a real talent that should be shooting, and its not a 29ft Russell pull up.
You really are obsessed with defending Dlo. He's not as good as he thinks he is. The numbers for his last 100 games dont lie. I think Dlo is fine, but he needs to move over and focus on getting Ant and Kat the ball in the 4th, its been a long time since that 30 foot pull up has gone in.
thedoper wrote:Last year into this year 20% of Dlo's shots have been the pull up 3 where he has shot around 33%. Finch should pull him everytime he does it, especially in the 4th quarter where it dips below 30%. There is no room for him taking that shot in a game of professionals.
And yet it was this exact shot type that put Minnesota within one with 3:33 left to play. It's an odd thing to complain about tonight. Hate when he misses, love when he makes. That's how the league goes.
thedoper wrote:Last year into this year 20% of Dlo's shots have been the pull up 3 where he has shot around 33%. Finch should pull him everytime he does it, especially in the 4th quarter where it dips below 30%. There is no room for him taking that shot in a game of professionals.
And yet it was this exact shot type that put Minnesota within one with 3:33 left to play. It's an odd thing to complain about tonight. Hate when he misses, love when he makes. That's how the league goes.
And the second one he missed when he was "feeling it".
thedoper wrote:Fuck man. I was on KAT the whole game. Dlo's pull up and wide open miss were big shot decisions. Like I said, Dlo played well. He called his own number along with Towns and not Ant. Hes not the reason we lost but I didnt see him looking to feed Ant when it mattered. Chill.
Don't give me that. Anthony Edwards calls his own number possession after possession, game after game -- for better or worse. And yet he still took seven shots in the fourth quarter! So much for being frozen out of the game. He got his opportunities, including his own missed three-point attempt(s) late.
I'd also add that Ant needs to get a lot better moving without the basketball. We can't logically ask for teammates to find him when he doesn't consistently make himself available relocating on the perimeter or cutting to the basket. It's a two-way street. He can't rely on Chris Finch to run isolation after isolation for him and stall ball movement in the process. If he wants the ball, then he needs to earn it, and go get it.
The difference is that Ant should be. That is the point. When games are tight and iso ball takes over we have a real talent that should be shooting, and its not a 29ft Russell pull up.
When games get tight Minnesota needs to continue running the actions that got them the lead or back in the ball game. Run their natural offense. Use their size advantage on the interior. Minnesota should never opt for Iso-Ant when they have the talent that they have on the roster unless he's scorched Earth, and that wasn't the case tonight.
D-Loser wrote:Can't even beat a bad team, missing it's two best players lol... glad we turned the corner... don't run out of gas on your victory lap clowns
Jester time stamp 8:21 Friday November 2022
You were right D Loser here's your cookie. Thanks for insight hope you can go to bed with smile on your face tonight. Because you're Jester you were right poster of the night.
thedoper wrote:Fuck man. I was on KAT the whole game. Dlo's pull up and wide open miss were big shot decisions. Like I said, Dlo played well. He called his own number along with Towns and not Ant. Hes not the reason we lost but I didnt see him looking to feed Ant when it mattered. Chill.
Don't give me that. Anthony Edwards calls his own number possession after possession, game after game -- for better or worse. And yet he still took seven shots in the fourth quarter! So much for being frozen out of the game. He got his opportunities, including his own missed three-point attempt(s) late.
I'd also add that Ant needs to get a lot better moving without the basketball. We can't logically ask for teammates to find him when he doesn't consistently make himself available relocating on the perimeter or cutting to the basket. It's a two-way street. He can't rely on Chris Finch to run isolation after isolation for him and stall ball movement in the process. If he wants the ball, then he needs to earn it, and go get it.
The difference is that Ant should be. That is the point. When games are tight and iso ball takes over we have a real talent that should be shooting, and its not a 29ft Russell pull up.
When games get tight Minnesota needs to continue running the actions that got them the lead or back in the ball game. Run their natural offense. Use their size advantage on the interior. Minnesota should never opt for Iso-Ant when they have the talent that they have on the roster unless he's scorched Earth, and that wasn't the case tonight.
I think its simpler than that. They should make Ant the primary ball handler in the 4th and let him decide. The pressure of winning and losing would regulate him giving up the ball or not. We are never better with a 30 foot Dlo pull up. The numbers dont lie even f he lead the herculean task of getting us within 1.
thedoper wrote:Last year into this year 20% of Dlo's shots have been the pull up 3 where he has shot around 33%. Finch should pull him everytime he does it, especially in the 4th quarter where it dips below 30%. There is no room for him taking that shot in a game of professionals.
And yet it was this exact shot type that put Minnesota within one with 3:33 left to play. It's an odd thing to complain about tonight. Hate when he misses, love when he makes. That's how the league goes.
And the second one he missed when he was "feeling it".
D-Lo missed two threes late in the fourth quarter. The first was a wide open catch-and-shoot three after a KAT offensive rebound, and the second was a dribble-hand-off three going left in the same vicinity that he had just made one minutes prior. Both were decent looks.
I honestly feel like you're bitching about nothing out of frustration from the team's loss, and D-Lo is the easy person to point the finger at for whatever reason. Fine. Seems especially odd tonight, but fine.
thedoper wrote:I think its simpler than that. They should make Ant the primary ball handler in the 4th and let him decide. The pressure of winning and losing would regulate him giving up the ball or not. We are never better with a 30 foot Dlo pull up. The numbers dont lie even f he lead the herculean task of getting us within 1.
That's fine if Minnesota was in rebuild mode and focused solely on developing Anthony Edwards, but they're not. They need to win as many games as possible in the brutal Western Conference, and letting Ant dominate the ball in the manner you're suggesting doesn't get them more wins. It reduces his effectiveness and therefore the team's chances of winning.
PS: The numbers don't lie, you're right, and D'Angelo Russell has an effective field goal percentage of 58.8 in the clutch this season -- up from 54.2 last year, which was also good. Guy is typically solid when it matters. I think we'll be okay.
thedoper wrote:Last year into this year 20% of Dlo's shots have been the pull up 3 where he has shot around 33%. Finch should pull him everytime he does it, especially in the 4th quarter where it dips below 30%. There is no room for him taking that shot in a game of professionals.
And yet it was this exact shot type that put Minnesota within one with 3:33 left to play. It's an odd thing to complain about tonight. Hate when he misses, love when he makes. That's how the league goes.
And the second one he missed when he was "feeling it".
D-Lo missed two threes late in the fourth quarter. The first was a wide open catch-and-shoot three after a KAT offensive rebound, and the second was a dribble-hand-off three going left in the same vicinity that he had just made one minutes prior. Both were decent looks.
I honestly feel like you're bitching about nothing out of frustration from the team's loss, and D-Lo is the easy person to point the finger at for whatever reason. Fine. Seems especially odd tonight, but fine.
I wasnt "bitching" until you took offense to me correctly pointing out that our PG didnt get our top scorer good shots when the game was finally close. After I stated that to someone else you when full bitch for Dlo. I believe in a natural hierarchy in basketball. Dlo is and should always be the 3rd option on this team. A good PG follows that hierarchy, a great PG encourages it and enhances it. KAT was off, when the game was close it should have been all Ant. Anyone but you and Dlo would probably agree. When worse players call their own number its bad basketball. When its your PG it can become a team problem.
