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I think the real anger from this trade comes from the fact we gave a first rounder for Thad. That was a poor move.

One player, especially way past his prime, doesn't give a team an identity.

One of the things I am hopeful for is not so much mentoring, but an entire culture change in the intensity the team needs to play with.

We should get a feel for that almost immediately!

Camden0916 wrote:Should Thad opt-out and re-sign at $6M per year with the Nets, how does that change your view of this trade, if at all?

It doesn't because you can't just assume he would have accepted that deal had we offered it.

And right on cue:

Jon Krawczynski ?@APkrawczynski 3m3 minutes ago
A big factor in bringing in KG, even at this age: his winning mentality. On a team that has lost for too long, they welcome that.

khans2k5 wrote:

Camden0916 wrote:Should Thad opt-out and re-sign at $6M per year with the Nets, how does that change your view of this trade, if at all?

It doesn't because you can't just assume he would have accepted that deal had we offered it.

I get your point, but if he takes it with Brooklyn, I think it'd be fair to say he would have done the same here had we not moved him.

Camden wrote:Should Thad opt-out and re-sign at $6M per year with the Nets, how does that change your view of this trade, if at all?

Help me out with something, cam (and others). Thad is due almost $10 million next year at his option...if he opts in, he collects the 10 mill and can become an UFA the next year, still at a young age. Why would he unilaterally agree to take $4 million less than he is owed next year? I'm missing something here because many analysts are saying he is going to opt out. I'm confused!

TRKO wrote:I think the real anger from this trade comes from the fact we gave a first rounder for Thad. That was a poor move.

Yes you have it and here is the thing the wolves before all the injuries and thads mom passing away were looking like They had a shot at doing something. We planned for pek and Martin being hurt but Rubio missing all that time wasn't in the plan and then Thad wasn't the same player for weeks after he was away. Maybe the wolves wouldn't have made the playoffs but I think If Rubio would have been healthy Thad would have been a lot more useful on both sides of the ball even if his jumper was broke as it was.

Here is the deal. Will Flip get enough things right to turn this franchise around? What if Wiggins turns out to be a terrific player Bazz becomes a Spreewell type impact player and he gets it right on a couple other players that turn into legit above average starters or key rotation players? Some of these other little screw ups will be part of the business nobody even the Spurs don't get it right every time. I'm not trying to defend Flip just being a little realistic and somewhat optimistic about some of the moves he has made that look pretty good right now. We will see.

I don't see Thad opting out. He can make 10 mil next year, and then be an unrestricted FA when the big money is available. The timing works out best for him to opt in.

monsterpile wrote:

TRKO wrote:I think the real anger from this trade comes from the fact we gave a first rounder for Thad. That was a poor move.

Yes you have it and here is the thing the wolves before all the injuries and thads mom passing away were looking like They had a shot at doing something. We planned for pek and Martin being hurt but Rubio missing all that time wasn't in the plan and then Thad wasn't the same player for weeks after he was away. Maybe the wolves wouldn't have made the playoffs but I think If Rubio would have been healthy Thad would have been a lot more useful on both sides of the ball even if his jumper was broke as it was.

Here is the deal. Will Flip get enough things right to turn this franchise around? What if Wiggins turns out to be a terrific player Bazz becomes a Spreewell type impact player and he gets it right on a couple other players that turn into legit above average starters or key rotation players? Some of these other little screw ups will be part of the business nobody even the Spurs don't get it right every time. I'm not trying to defend Flip just being a little realistic and somewhat optimistic about some of the moves he has made that look pretty good right now. We will see.

Nobody bats 1.000. That being said we weren't going to compete in the west if everything went right. Why not keep the first round draft pick and build for the future instead of getting a highly paid guy in Young who isn't quite starting material? We have great young potential, but trading two firsts for PFs, whom may not work out doesn't seem smart to me.